tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post5508698261549176802..comments2023-10-10T13:32:08.298+03:00Comments on SZA's Blog: The religion of peace website and the Dunning-Kruger effect, was Banu Qaynuqa slaughtered unjustly?azblogtalkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-36870879270694522382017-09-02T02:02:30.539+03:002017-09-02T02:02:30.539+03:00not anymorenot anymoreazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-14507829174363534102017-09-02T01:13:25.509+03:002017-09-02T01:13:25.509+03:00Wait but i thought you were a quranist ?Wait but i thought you were a quranist ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-77387983636017206502017-07-13T00:38:29.527+03:002017-07-13T00:38:29.527+03:00at one point i might tackle that website, i can...at one point i might tackle that website, i can't give you my word though, i'm very busy currentlyazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-10321274993927868412017-07-13T00:36:02.788+03:002017-07-13T00:36:02.788+03:00Hello Galal, sorry for not posting recently, i'...Hello Galal, sorry for not posting recently, i'm busy with work and daily life to the point that i have no time to write articles, but when i get the chance i will after all TROP does't put much efforts into their arguments making it easy for me to debunk them<br />let me address one problem with your statement, you said that prophet Muhammad loved aisha, i wouldn't argue against that, the problem is it's a strawman, i never said he never loved her, i said it's possible that he wasn't happy with marriage conditions, totally different argumentazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-36362129579845397972017-07-12T03:04:47.596+03:002017-07-12T03:04:47.596+03:00Great to see you back Salam (I'm the guy from ...Great to see you back Salam (I'm the guy from Egypt if you don't remember me XD). To back you up here as a response to Victor. The claim that the prophet " did marry a nine year old girl, but that doesn't mean he was at all happy about it" is not true. I'm not gonna even entertain the notion that the prophet was a pedophile since this has been talked about repeatedly. But, what I will reply to is the claim that he wasn't particularly happy about the marriage with Lady Aisha. Simply enough there is clear sahih hadith that the prophet deeply loved Aisha and would proclaim his love for her in front of everyone. In Sahih Bukhari hadith #4358 the prophet was clearly asked who he loved the most and he replied by saying Aisha and when asked whom he loved the most among men he replied by saying "her father".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799883440224619366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-20979369508142623292017-07-11T23:55:35.306+03:002017-07-11T23:55:35.306+03:00Can you make an article about wiki-islam? Can you make an article about wiki-islam? .https://www.blogger.com/profile/12417639731945488854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-59369638202315708062017-07-06T16:50:45.064+03:002017-07-06T16:50:45.064+03:00will yes the verse does say he is an excellent (no...will yes the verse does say he is an excellent (note the word excellent not perfect) example to follow but let me ask you<br />prophet muhammad and his people lived in tents and houses made of clay and used camels for transportation and swards and many other primitive tools, just because he is the best example to follow doesn't mean we have to do everything he did<br /><br />also the prophet (as i stated before in my articles) said "La Darar Wa La Darar" meaning "there shall be no harm done and no harm allowed" now if based on 21 century science, marrying a 9 year old is bad then based on this authentic hadith (and ruling) we shouldn't do so<br />"if yes then Islam is advocating pedophilia"<br />you didn't read my article carefully, marrying a 9 year old based on tradition and religion is Not pedophilia, marrying a 9 year old based on YOUR sexuality That is pedophilia<br />if i put a gun into your head and tell you to marry a 9 year old does that make you a pedophile?<br />because again the prophet based his actions on islamic rulings like the one i mentioned to you, so how can that be considered a contradiction<br /><br />However asked you this question ask him this "if i put a gun into your head and tell you to marry a 9 year old does that make you a pedophile?"<br />again, prophet muhammad told us we should avoid doing anything that causes harm<br />tell me where do you think jurists made the argument that cigarettes are haram even though it never existed at the time of the prophet?<br />it's made haram based on that rulingazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-48353189350535747712017-07-06T13:28:14.415+03:002017-07-06T13:28:14.415+03:00Just to let you know I have read the article about...Just to let you know I have read the article about the prophet alayhi salaam marriage with Aisha may Allah ta Alaa be please with her<br /><br />MashaAllah may Allah ta Alaa reward you for that <br /><br /> .....but the question that remain if prophet Muhammad alayhi salaam is the best of example for mankind especially for the believers as the Quran mention<br /><br /><br />Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have an excellent example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.<br /><br />Quran (Surah Al-Ahzab, Verse 21)<br /><br /> then whatever he did was perfect and can be imply by anybody at any time since some of his actions are divinely ordained....so as Muslim can we follow the example the prophet Muhammad alayhi salaam in marrying nine years old girl in 21 century if yes then Islam is advocating pedophilia if not then the prophet Muhammad alayhi salaam is not the best of example to follow which goes against the quranic claim <br /><br /><br />So how would you respond to this contention brother ?<br /><br />BTW the this question is post by non Muslim, as a Muslim I believe the prophet Muhammad alayhi salaam is the best of example since Aisha may Allah ta Alaa be please with her is not the only wife he married.....<br /><br />Let me know if my question make sense inshaAllahAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413294532160499908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-18712456687789655132017-07-06T10:22:11.409+03:002017-07-06T10:22:11.409+03:00walikum al salam
Sure, askwalikum al salam <br />Sure, askazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-81098460334413208232017-07-06T01:37:46.574+03:002017-07-06T01:37:46.574+03:00As salaam alaikum akhi I have a questionAs salaam alaikum akhi I have a questionAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413294532160499908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-45003161765578020342017-07-03T14:49:47.479+03:002017-07-03T14:49:47.479+03:00i'm talking about the one where he expelled th...i'm talking about the one where he expelled them out of madina and took their tools and supplies instead of beheading them and told abdullah to join them<br />but yes it's weak after allazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-18693027625897947992017-07-03T12:21:58.143+03:002017-07-03T12:21:58.143+03:00"of course i could mention it to make muhamma..."of course i could mention it to make muhammad look more appealing"<br /><br /><br />You got something wrong. The report says that he wanted to execute all the prisoners,as in banu qurayza event, but Abd Allah b. Ubay prevented him. How is that making him look more "appealing"?? Just the opposite, It makes him a cruel warlord. But its a weak sanadSceptical77https://www.blogger.com/profile/11221154154936952656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-60367886390293593832017-07-03T09:03:39.083+03:002017-07-03T09:03:39.083+03:00yes there is a report of muhammad asking them to b...yes there is a report of muhammad asking them to be set free, of course i could mention it to make muhammad look more appealing but i didn't for two reasons<br />1-it's not related nor is it cited by TROP so i was mainly fact checking their claims<br />2-it's also weak, infact a large proportion of the story of banu Qaynuqa cited by tabari is weak<br />here is the problem, the english version of tabari doesn't give you all of the narrators, infact the majority of all english translated islamic sources including tabari doesn't give all narrators of the story, when i was reading it in my English PDF version i knew something was missing so i went to the arabic one, the original one and found more narrators, now regarding the story you cited of Muhammad setting them free is infact also from waqidi<br />here is why<br />it's a part of a single narration, if you look into the Arabic source it comes from chain number 158, meaning all narrations cited under this number belong to it's main narrator, and the main narrator of this chain number is none other than Waqidi again, he is responsible of 2 narrations under this number, the English version doesn't have numbering system in it<br />" then it means Muhammad really wanted to do what he did to banu qurayza."<br />what do you mean?<br />i highly recommend downloading sahih wa daif tarikh tabari, if you had someone who speak Arabic they can verify what i said hereazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-55311603880031195762017-07-02T20:02:32.792+03:002017-07-02T20:02:32.792+03:00About the part that Muhammad's wanting to behe...About the part that Muhammad's wanting to behead 700 prisoners. You said this report is weak because of Waqidi. However,in tabari's book, after this report on page 86, there is another report mentioning Muhammad's setting them free because of Abd Allah b.ubay. it does not have waqidi in the sanad. The sanad of this particular report is as follows: tabari-muhammad bin umar -muhammad bin salih- asim bin umar bin qatadah, *can you investigate if this sanad is weak or not?* If its reliable, then it means Muhammad really wanted to do what he did to banu qurayza.Sceptical77https://www.blogger.com/profile/11221154154936952656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-26782773219412120912017-06-29T07:44:58.167+03:002017-06-29T07:44:58.167+03:00" I hope this doesn't offend you at all&q..." I hope this doesn't offend you at all"<br />why would it offend me? i don't believe it in the first placeazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-13096618827750526642017-06-29T07:43:39.135+03:002017-06-29T07:43:39.135+03:00"Muhammad was absolutely devastated after los..."Muhammad was absolutely devastated after losing his wife, the other wives he still treats them like people of course. Like other people (anti-Islam people) who just freak out and thought of him as "child-obsessed freak""<br />on that case then the motive is considered emotional rather than sexual<br /><br />"Muhammad did marry a nine-year-old girl, but that doesn't mean he is happy about that"<br />depends on what you mean by "happy" also what scholars? you do realize academics reject hadith authenticity<br />"but not because of that too, it's due to some cultural reasons"<br />then scientifically and logically calling a pedophile is false, back to my question, if i put a gun into your head and tell you to marry a 9 year old does that make you a pedophile?<br />"and to boot each of the post-Kadijah marriages was made purely as part of a political alliance"<br />i certainly did hear about that before<br />"but that doesn't mean he was at all happy about it."<br />we don't know how he "felt" about it, but you can argue with that<br />"Does that make sense to you?"<br />i can sympathize with that yes<br />"I mean was this a point, and that you did address this issue for those who called Muhammad a "child-lover"?"<br />i did dedicate a complete article regarding this issue, i addressed it scientifically and rationallyazblogtalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045038432455042802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-2023171557547618122017-06-29T05:20:10.053+03:002017-06-29T05:20:10.053+03:00So I mean, okay. So Muhammad did marry a nine-year...So I mean, okay. So Muhammad did marry a nine-year-old girl, but not that he's happy about that. The sex thing, it's due with some cultural reasons but it's not that Islam would ever fully accept it either. I hope this doesn't offend you at all, and if that's what you are also trying to say that argument, sorry that I didn't look at your article I was a bit lazy for some other reasons. Again my apologies for that if that's the problem that I didn't look.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03534546001192608139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716313045128739329.post-54022132528333121682017-06-29T05:04:23.285+03:002017-06-29T05:04:23.285+03:00So, besides you and others, I did ask my close fri...So, besides you and others, I did ask my close friend who is a Christian, but also understands about Islam and he told me that Muhammad was absolutely devastated after losing his wife, the other wives he still treats them like people of course. Like other people (anti-Islam people) who just freak out and thought of him as "child-obsessed freak" and scholars of Islam would agree, Muhammad did marry a nine-year-old girl, but that doesn't mean he is happy about that. Did had sex with her, but not because of that too, it's due to some cultural reasons, but not that Islam would 100% approve this act either. "Funny You should ask about Mohammad's Wives. Se, for the longest time he actually only had *one* Wife, a woman named Kadijah, and he adored her like no other. They seriously sound like one of the sweetest couple in all of theology. I actually think you mght be able to write a romance novel about them and hardly any Muslims would complain. He was completely heartbroken when she died, and it was only after this that the other women came along, and to boot each of the post-Kadijah marriages was made purely as part of a political alliance (although he still treated them with the respect and gave proper attendance to all of his other husbandly duties). Yes, he did marry a nine year old girl, but that doesn't mean he was at all happy about it. Yes he did have sex with her, but that was only because in that culture a husband had to do so for the legal arrangements to be finalized.<br /><br />Additionally, it should be pointed out that in those days you were considered an adult at age thirteen. One Muslim also told me that there's evidence that this particular girl had been a VERY early bloomer."<br /><br />Does that make sense to you? I mean was this a point, and that you did address this issue for those who called Muhammad a "child-lover"?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03534546001192608139noreply@blogger.com