Introduction: some atheists and Christens love to use some hadith narrations or secondary sources that make the claim that the Quran lost some verses or even chapters today I will look at some of them and observe some of the claims as it’s the most pointed and asserted ones
Note: sources are in Arabic I translate it to English so if the Arabic book has English translation version, it could be in a different page but not far from the original Arabic one
Question: why didn’t the prophet Muhammad Gathered and put the Qur’an in one book at his time?
Answer: because at the time of the prophet it was quite possible for a verse to be revealed and be abrogated with another one, so the Qur’an has to reach its final stage, and all abrogation has to be done in order for it to be gathered.
Alleged Hadith:
{ Narrated Zaid bin Thabit:
Abu Bakr As-Siddiq sent for me when the people! of Yamama had been killed (i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against Musailama). (I went to him) and found `Umar bin Al- Khattab sitting with him. Abu Bakr then said (to me), "`Umar has come to me and said: "Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the! Qur'an (i.e. those who knew the Qur'an by heart) on the day of the Battle of Yalmama, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra' on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost. Therefore I suggest, you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur'an be collected." I said to `Umar, "How can you do something which Allah's Apostle did not do?" `Umar said, "By Allah, that is a good project. "`Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allah opened my chest for it and I began to realize the good in the idea which `Umar had realized." Then Abu Bakr said (to me). 'You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). So you should search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur'an and collect it in one book)." By Allah if they had ordered me to shift one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Qur'an. Then I said to Abu Bakr, "How will you do something which Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) did not do?" Abu Bakr replied, "By Allah, it is a good project." Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allah opened my chest for what He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and `Umar. So I started looking for the Qur'an and collecting it from (what was written on) palmed stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, till I found the last Verse of Surat at-Tauba (Repentance) with Abi Khuza`ima Al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The Verse is: 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty..(till the end of Surat-Baraa' (at-Tauba) (9.128-129) Then the complete manuscripts (copy) of the Qur'an remained with Abu Bakr till he died, then with `Umar till the end of his life, and then with Hafsa, the daughter of `Umar..}[1]
Where do these hadiths say the Quran has been lost or lost few parts??? In fact, this actually proves the Quran has been preserved, how you may ask? will why did Abu baker order to collect the Quran in one book?. This means the Quran is already finished, however, let us see more abo baker say to Zaid:” 'You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). So you should search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur'an and collect it in one book)."
Here Abu Baker say that Zaid is
A-wise young man i.e. he is not old and unwise to have a possibility to make a mess in verses
B-that he used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah’s Messenger i.e. he used to write down the verses this is a response to the allegation that the Quran was not written each verse at the time of the prophet, (So I started looking for the Qur'an and collecting it from (what was written on) palmed stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart,)
This statement right here is another proof that the Quran was already written in several materials such as Palmed stalks and thin white stones it was also memorized by men hearts, therefore, this is a response to those who say the Quran was no written in a specific material
Was the Quran Written at the time of the prophet?
The answer is yes
{From Kharijah ibn Zaid said: a number of people entered to Zaid Ibn Thabit tell us some of the tales and stories from the prophet then he said: what should I tell you? I was the neighbor of the prophet of God (peace be upon him) and whenever a revelation come into him by Wahy he sends me to write it down}[2]
Another accusation:
{Al-Tabarani: it is reported from ‘Umar bin al-Khattab, he said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “the Qur’an has 1,027,000 letters. Whoever will recite it with patience with the intention of seeking Allah’s pleasure will get a wide-eyed maiden for every single letter.}[3]
However the Quran we have today can’t reach one-Third of that number, so we have a problem here
Respond:
If we read the very page of the book, we see Al-Sayuti said that “all of the men mentioned here are trusted Except Al-Tabarani Muhammad Ibn ʿAbaid Ibn Adam Ibn Abi Ayas Al-Dahabi Talked about him in this hadith”[4]
However the problem with this hadith doesn’t end here at the Beginning of the hadith it’s marked for sanad as Al-Sayuti mark it with number (3) on the original Arabic citation if we go down to the footnotes level we read note 3 we see it says “And Al-Dahabi said in Mizan(3/639) in his translation “he was isolated with a fabricated hadith” and this hadith is mentioned here and Al-Sayuti recognized it as Daʿif in Al-Jamiʿ Al-Sagir (4/536) and Sheikh Al-Albani in Daʿif Al-Jamiʿ Al-Sagir with number 4137 and said : (Maudoʿ “Fabricated or inserted)
Another source for the so-called hadith:
{ from ‘Umar bin al-Khattab, he said: “the Qur’an has 1,027,000 letters. Whoever will recite it with patience with the intention of seeking Allah’s pleasure will get a wide-eyed maiden for every single letter (footnote number 6)}[5]
Notice the Footnote number 6 in the page let us check the sanad
“Al-Albani Said (Battle “fabricated”) Al-Silsila Al-Daifa 4073”[6]
{number 4133: the Quran is a thousand and thousand letter and twenty-seven thousand letter who ever read it will have on each letter a wife of Al-Hur Al-'Ein}[7]
Let me turn the Tables website also made similar refutation to it
Aya Al-Rajim
This is a very famous one to be mentioned Aya Al-rajim (the stoning verse), as the so-called narration goes:
{number 13364 : From Abdulrazaq From Maʿmar from Ibn Jadʿan(focus on this name Ibn Jadʿan) From Yousef Ibn Mahran that he heard from Ibn ʿabas saying: Umar Ibn Khattab sat on the pulpit and when the call makers for the prayer had finished their call, 'Umar stood up, and having glorified and praised Allah and then said “Oh People don’t be fooled by stoning verse (Aya Al-Rajim) when it was revealed in the Quran and we read it, but it was gone with a lot of the Quran with Muhammad}[8]
As you can see the word “gone” as it was lost this is a myth and here is why
{74-Al-Rajim (stoning) is inflicting one of the Hudud (prescribed punishments) of Allah so don’t stay away from it
343-It was told from Abo Baker Ibn Abi Shaiba from Abdullah Ibn Idris from Ashʿat From Ali Ibn Zaid(who is Ibn Jadʿan ) From Yousef Ibn Mihran From Ibn Abas Said: Umar (May Allah honor him) said: Al-Rajim (stoning) is inflicting one of the Hudud (prescribed punishments) of Allah so don’t stay away from it and the proof on that is that the messenger of Allah used to stone and Abo Baker used to stone and I used to stone……
(on footnotes Al-Albani says) 343-Daʿif in sanad because of Ali Ibn Zaid who is Ibn Jadʿan very bad in memorization}[9]
Let’s see another criticism to the narrator
{Ali Ibn Zaid
Ibn Jadʿan…….. (In the next page 207) Abo Zarʿa and Abo Hatim said: he is not strong and Al-Bukḫari and others said: he is not to be used or taken and Ibn Khuzaima Said: I don’t use him for his bad memory and Al-Tirmidhi said: he is truthful And Shuʿba said: he narrated for us ones before he mix up things randomly
And Hamad Ibn Zaid said: we were warned By Ali Ibn Zaid: and he was flipping off hadiths randomly ,and Falas said: and Yahya Ibn Saied was keeping himself away from him and Ahmad Ibn Hanbal said: Daʿif and Abas said from YYahya: he is by nothing and ‘Uthman Al-Darimi from Yahya : he is not strong}[10]
{From Al-Zuhri : Balagana (We were told) that a lot of the Quran was revealed but the Ulama of the Quran were Killed at the battle of Yamama who knew about it, and no one know about what they know or wrote down what they knew}[11]
As you can see there is a word here “Balagana” means this is Mursal and Zuhri Mursal is by nothing, why? Here is why
{Ahmed Ibn Abi Shuraih said: I head From Al-Shafii the say we were Favoring and if we favor someone we will favor Al-Zuhri and Al-Zuhri Mursal is by nothing and that we found him usually narrate from Solaiman Ibn Arqam and Abo Qudama Ubaid Allah Ibn Saaed I heard Yahya Ibn Saaed said Mursal Al-Zuhri is Worse than any other Mursal}[12]
{An Al-Zuhri Marasil (plural to Mursal) Daʿifa and Yahya Al-Qatan won’t see in Al-Zuhri and Qutada in Irsal anything
And Al-Duri said Zuhri Mursal is by nothing}[13]
This one is actually even a very famous one
Al-Dur Al-Manthor by Jalal al Din `Abdul Rahman b. Abi Bakr Al-Suyuti
{We were told by Saaed (Ibn Mansur) said: we were told by Ismail Ibn Ibrahim From Ayob from Nafiʿ From Ibn Umar said: None of you should I have all of the Quran How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived (footnote number 2)}[14]
In the very next page of the same volume and book it explain
{(I have got what has survived) means all what was revealed at the time of the prophet of what was abrogated and what stayed not abrogated (MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE) means it was abrogated to cause to be forgotten AT THE TIME OF THE PROPHET or was abrogated according to the 3 types of abrogation because the condition of its validity or proof was not found after the prophet final revelation or state of the Final Quran}[15]
So what does it mean if a Report is saying something is missing in the Quran?
Imam Al-Alusi Al-Baghdadi Explain what it means:
{and what is Truthful that Any Report or allegation the core of it is something of the Quran was lost or Gone is Either Fabricated and Inserted or about something else}[16]
Another Allegation is this:
{The Third type of abrogation is what the Tilaua was abrogated and not the ruling}[17]
And two pages later he site the so called allegation
{[Abu Ubaid](footnote Number 1) said, Ibn Abi Maryam narrated to us from Ibn Lahi'ah from Abil Aswad from 'Urwah ibn Az-Zubayr from 'A'ishah that she said, "We used to recite Surat Al-Ahzab with 200 verses during the lifetime of the Prophet ,Then when 'Uthman transcribed the manuscripts of the Qur'an (masaahif) he was unable to find [all of the verses] except those [verses] as it currently is today(footnote number 2)
(2)- Abu Ubaid brought it in Fadail Al-Quran (146/2) in number 700 and in it’s sanad someone who is weak and that is Ibn Lahi'ah }[18]
{and what Abu Ubaid Al-Qasam Bin Salam By his sanad And Ibn Al-Anbari by his sanad From Aisha said: We used to recite Surat Al-Ahzab with 200 verses during the lifetime of the Prophet, Then when 'Uthman transcribed the manuscripts of the Qur'an (masaahif) he was unable to find [all of the verses] except those [verses] as it currently is today, and these two Sanad Are Weak}[19]
{and Aisha Report is Even Weaker sanad and if she was Sahih but I don’t think so then she is most likely speaking about something that was abrogated from Surat Al-Ahzab ….. and not after how all the companions of the prophet agreed on mushaf ‘Uthman}[20]
Another allegation about 73 verses in sura Al-Ahzab
Islamic Life Blog already made a refutation to it along with the 200 verses allegation link here:
{21206-"Abdullah Told us from Wahb ibn Baqiah Khalid Ibn Abdullah Al-Tahan From Yazid Ibn Abi Ziyad From Zir Ibn Hubaish From Ubai Ibn Kaʿab said: me 'How many verses are contained in the chapter of al-Ahzab?' I said, '72 or 73 verses.' He said it was almost as long as the chapter of the Cow, and in it was the verse of stoning. (footnote 1)"}[21]
{(1)-Sanad Daʿif Because of Yazid Ibn Abi Ziyad and he is the Kufi Ibn Maʿin said : he is not to be taken and Ibn Mubarak said : throw him away}[22]
And on the same Page of the same book another narration of the same story but with a different narrator however this one is also weak
{ Abdullah Told us Khalaf Ibn Hisham Told us Hamad Ibn Yazid told us From Isam Ibn Bahdala From Zir: Ubai Ibn Kaʿab said: me 'How many verses are contained in the chapter of al-Ahzab?' I said, '72 or 73 verses.' He said it was almost as long as the chapter of the Cow, and in it was the verse of stoning (footnote 3)}[23]
{(3) Daʿif Sanad Because of Isam Ibn Bahdala and if he was truthful he is deluded because he has weak memory}[24]
Another allegation:
{And Reported From Abo Nuaim Al-Fadil Ibn Dukain said : Narrated By Saif From Mujahid said: Al-Ahzab was as long as Baqara or longer, and at the time of Musailma Much of the Quran was Gone, and no halal or haram was gone from it}[25]
This is a false repot why? Because Abu Umar Ibn Abdullbar never reached or talked to Abo Nuaim Al-Fadil Ibn Dukain how do we know this?
{title: Abo Nuaim Al-Fadil Ibn Dukain}[26]
{Muhammad Ibn Abdullah Al-Mutaian said: I saw Abo Nuaim and I talked to him and he said: Abo Nuaim Died at the year 219 of Ramadan month}[27]
Let’s focus on this year (219)
{Ibn Abdulbar(the author of Al-Tamhid)}[28]
{Abudawud Al-Muqri said: Abu Umar Died at year 463 and aged 95 year and seven days}[29]
So now we need to know the year Ibn Abdulbar was born we do the following equation
463-95=368
So he was born at 368 Hijria
Now we do the following equation
368-219=149
MEANS we have over 149 year of disconnection in the sanad between the death of Al-Fadil Ibn Dukain and and the birth of Ibn Abdulbar this is a lot of years
Now back into the narration there is another problem (From Mujahid), now did he actually saw or even fight in the battle of yamama?
when did the battle of Yamama Happen?
{at the year 11 of Hijra}[30]
{the death of Musalima Al-Kadab(the liar) May allah Curse him}[31]
Means Musalima died at the year 11 or 12 Hijria
Ok now when did Mujahid was Born?
{Mujahid Ibn Jabr}[32]
{Ali Ibn Al-Madini said: Mujahid Ibn Jar died at year 104}[33]
{6481-Mujahid Ibn Jabr he died at eather 101 or 102 or 103 or 104 and he is 83 years old}[34]
Now let us see the closest reports by Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani on the battle of Yamama which is as we saw 101 so if we do this:
101-83=18
18 years between the battle of Yamama and Mujahid Ibn Jabir
Now let us go back to the same narration and see what chapter Imam Abu Umar Ibn Abdullbar Al-Qurtobi put the report on
But now on page.273 from it’s beginning
{and in this evident on who say that the Quran was abrogated from it what is not in our Mushaf today and who ever say that says: that abrogation is on three types in Quran one of them is abrogating the ruling and it’s words and caused to be forgotten means it’s line and words was taken away but not the memorization}[35]
End of Part-1
[1] Sahih al-Bukḫari 4986 In-book reference: Book 66, Hadith 8 USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 61, Hadith 509
[2] Kitab Al-Masahif By Ibn Abi Dawud Al-sajistani Page.145 Dar Al-bashair Edition
[3] Al-Itqan Fi Ulom Al-Quran By Imam Al-Sayuti Vol(2) Page.456 From Markaz Al-dirasat Al-Qurania
[4] Ibid
[5] Al-Durr Al-Manthur Fi Tafsir Bil-Ma'thur By Jalal Al-Dean Al-Sayuti Vol(15) Page.819 Markaz Hajar Edition
[6] Ibid Vol(9) Page.70
[7] Daʿif Al- Jamiʿ Al-Sagir Wa Ziadatih By Al-Albani Page.603 sites number 4133 sanad as (Maudoʿ “Fabricated or inserted)
[8] Al-Musanaf By Abdulrazaq Al-sanʿani Vol(7) Page.330
[9] Kitab Al-Sunnah By Imam Hafiz Abi Baker Al-Shibani Page.151 Al-Maktib Al-Islami Edition
[10] Siar Aʿlam Al-Nubala by Imam Al-Dahabi Vol(5) Page.206-207 Mūwasasa Al-Risala Edition
[11] Kitab Al-Masahif By Ibn Abi Dawud Page.208 (not Abi Dawud) Dar Al-Bashair Al-Islamia
[12] Jamiʿ Al-Tahsil Fi Ahkam Al-Marasil (plural to Mursal) By Imam Al-hafiz Salah Al-Dean Al-ʿAlai Alam Page.90 Al-Kutob Edition
[13] Tanqih Al-Tahkik fi Ahadith Al-Taʿlik By Imam Hafiz Abi Abdullah Almqdisi Vol(4) Page.585 Adwa Al-salaf Edition
[14] Sunan Saaed Ibn Mansur Vol(2) Page.432 Dar Al-Sumaʿi Edition
[15] Ibid Page.433
[16] Ruh Al-Maʿani Ib By Imam Al-Alusi Al-Baghdadi Vol(21) Page.142 Dar Al-Turath Al-Arabi Edition
[17] Al-Itqan Fi Ulom Al-Quran By Imam Al-Sayuti Vol (4) Page.1454
[18] Ibid Page.1456
[19] Tafsir Al-Tahrir Wa Al-Tanwir By Skeikh Muhammad Ibn Tahir Ibn ʿAshor Vol(21) Page.246 Dar Al-Tonisea Edition
[20] Ibid
[21] Musnad Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal Vol(35) Page.133 Mūwasasa Al-Risala Edition
[22] Ibid
[23] Ibid
[24] Ibid
[25] Al-Tamhid Fi Sharih Al-Muati By Imam Abu Umar Ibn Abdullbar Al-Qurtobi Vol(4) Page.275
[26] Siar Aʿlam Al-Nubala By Imam Shams Al-Dean Al-Dahabi Vol(10) Page.142 Mūwasasa Al-Risala Edition
[27] Ibid 151
[28] Ibid Vol(18) Page.153
[29] Ibid Page.159
[30] Al-Bidaia Wa Al-Nihaia By Imam Ibn Kathir Vol(9) Page.413 Dar Hajar Edition
[31] Ibid Page.465
[32] Siar Aʿlam Al-Nubala By Imam Shams Al-Dean Al-Dahabi Vol(4) Page.449 Mūwasasa Al-Risala Edition
[33] Page.456
[34] Takrib Al-Tahdib By Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani Page.453 Mūwasasa Al-Risala Edition
[35] Al-Tamhid Fi Sharih Al-Muati By Imam Abu Umar Ibn Abdullbar Al-Qurtobi Vol(4) Page.273-274
