Saturday, October 21, 2017

Going back to the masked arab (and possible sharif gabir refutations) please recommend videos to debunk

This post is going to remain here and won't be deleted as i will receive recommendations in this blog post, i'm announcing that i will return to debunking the masked arab, and possible sharif gabir, i'm also open to other polemicists suggestions, if anyone wish for me to look up someone else i will, but in the mean time there is 1 more post about TROP i have to make to make my return to the masked arab official, please type in the comment what video depending on it's popularity i should tackle, i was recommended to debunk he "7 reasons why i left islam" so this one is on the list, but i will take now any recommendations so long as the targeted polemicist is not known for flagging content

please feel free to comment

33 comments:

  1. i'll make sure to put this on the list

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  2. Well like i said before, responding to his video on Jizya would be a good Topic for your blog...His most popular video is "seven main reasons why i left Islam" he has an arabic version as well and his "Islam and ISIS" series is also quite popular...but i think you should rather stick to Jizya first...

    Responding to his "Sharia for dummies" video would be good for your blog as well...His other videos are not worth responding to...

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    1. i already addressed the most popular videos of "islam and isis" series, but i'll give it another shoot, the 7 reasons why i left islam will probably be the first one, then sharia for dummies as i was asked long time ago to address these 2 videos

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  3. Salaam could you please refute this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnMFdABLwyg (Refuting Scientific Miracles Of The Quran, 1 - Expansion Of The Universe)

    Also could you explain that sperm comes from the ribs ayah and the hadith https://sunnah.com/muslim/3/38



    The reproductive substance of man is white and that of woman (i. e. ovum central portion) yellow, and when they have sexual intercourse and the male's substance (chromosomes and genes) prevails upon the female's substance (chromosomes and genes), it is the male child that is created by Allah's Decree, and when the substance of the female prevails upon the substance contributed by the male, a female child is formed by the Decree of Allah.

    Scientifically is not correct.

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  4. Are you going to tackle wikiislam at some point in the future

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  5. Assalamualaikum Zaid,

    I found some websites claiming that Muhammad PBUH was a racist because he traded two black slaves for an Arab one...here's the hadith...

    It was narrated that Jabir Sair:

    "A slave came and gave his pledge to the Messenger of Allah to emigrate and the prophet did not realize that he was a slave.Then his master came looking for him.The prophet said; 'sell him to me.' so he bought him for two black slaves, then he did not accept until he had asked; 'Is he a slave?'''

    Sunan an-Nasa'i book 44 hadith 4625"

    TROP says it's from
    Sahih Muslim 3901

    Can you please tell What is your opinion about that?

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    1. So basicky he bought slaves that he didn't know were slaves and that makes him racist? Where is the logic here ?

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    2. The websites claim that Muhammad was a racist because he traded 2 black slaves for 1 Arab slave...they want to prove that Muhammad considers an Arab worth more than 2 black man which according to them makes him racist...so what is opinion about that? Do you think that the seller asked for 2 black slaves in return? Maybe this way of trading was common among arab right?

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    3. I was thinking the same think yesterday so that's why i asked you this question in order to confirm my speculation, i thought these websites took the hadith in context but as we can see it's not the case at all...Thank you by the way Zaid i really appreciate your help...

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  6. assalamu alaikum why not his latest videos

    which are:

    jizya in islam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5MZPYC-yMg

    and he made one on his second channel comparing muhammad saws to a villain : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32ClWbhSqg

    sharif gaber why not his video on embryology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXjyuxpNdE
    if mountains are like pegs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IAPPvDs8qg
    and his video on ahadith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVCZ4FjYL0g

    also why dont you also refute people like; the rationalizer who makes videos against islam like flat earth and embryology he has also had a debate recetly with shabir yusuf

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    1. I'll be assessing these people in time
      But if the video comparing prophet Muhammad saw to a villain was a trolling video then I won't bother

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  7. also salam i had a question personally from a claim that the quran has a contradiction

    the 2 verses in question are:

    quran 38;71-2, [So mention] when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I am going to create a human being from clay. So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration."

    and quran 15:28-29: And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "I will create a human being out of clay from an altered black mud. And when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration."

    so it is obviously speaking about the very same event

    however the claimed contradiction lies in what did allah say to the angels. because quran 38:71-72 allah didnt mention the altered black mud part
    however quran 15 does include the part of the altered black mud.

    so whcih of the two did allah swt say to the angels. because now it seems contradictory. did allah say to the angels i will create from clay, or did he say i will create from clay from altered black mud

    because these 2 verses are direct quotes of what allah said. and it is speaking of the same event. so what did allah say to the angels and is it not a contradiction

    the person who presented the acclaimed contradiction also included the following example:

    If I was to tell you today that Neil Armstrong said these famous words as he stepped on to the moon's surface:
    "That's one small step for man, but one giant leap for mankind"
    Two days later, I say these words were:
    "That's one small step for a human, but one giant leap for humanity"
    It's recounting what was said. The content of the statements are not contradicting, but it is a contradiction of quotation. He said either the first, the second, or neither. He can't have said both those sentences as he stepped onto the moon.

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    1. Human = man
      Clay = black mud

      How is that a contradiction ?

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    2. Assalamu alaikum

      The acclaimed contradiction is what did allah say to the angels

      Because the verse is directly quoting what allah said to the angels.

      So did allah say to the angels clay or did he say to the angels clay from an altered black mud

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    3. Alikum Al-Salam
      Contradiction suggests that two words have to be complete opposite in implementation to one other
      so i ask you, is black mud completely not related to clay?

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  8. When i saw this and saw your other articles on Maskedarab I screamed reading through them "STOP ITS ALREADY DEAD!!"

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  9. 3.Basic Questions.
    1.)Are Hadith Fixed? Does the amount of sahih hadith change on the opinion of scholars?
    2.)Isnt it true that until now some hadith works arent published yet even in arabic?Does this mean you cant read every single hadith even in arabic?
    3.)If the amount of hadith and the classification of hadith change as time goes on , doesnt it mean the religion is changing based on which hadith are true or not?

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    1. First of all,The first question:The hadith ARE fixed,they are only re-arranged and seperating according to Authentic and Unauthetnci

      2:No its not true,The original Sahih Bukhari WAS IN ARABIC.
      And as for third,no it is fixed

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    2. 1-define fixed, no id does not
      2-no, all 9 hadith books are originally in arabic, virtually all islamic sources were in arabic
      3-it doesn't, no it does not, Scholar consensuses is critical for hadith classification

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    3. 1)Well if al albani says that sunan abu dawud hadith nr 5081 is mawdu and a another hadith scholar says its daif Zubair Ali Zai says this hadith is hasan it changes the amount of hadith you can use a evidence.
      2)I know that , but what i meant is that until now there are a lot of hadith works which are not printed until now.So unless you dont have acces to the manuscript you cant read them.
      3)Whats the definition of a consensus? i mean if you have 100 hadith scholars and 90% say this hadith is sahih and 10% say its not sahih , is it a consensus?Or do all have to agree upon them?And what you get an 101. scholar and says this hadith is not sahih , is the consesus away?

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    4. 1- can you provide a link to each scholar classification of this hadith?
      2- not printed in what language? Arabic ? English? what classifies as hadith book to you? what do you consider as hadith source?
      3-no consensus literally means all of them have agreed on an issue, 90% is close but not a consensus, it's called majority but not consensus

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    5. 1.Sunnah.com (al albani) and https://archive.org/details/SunanAbuDawudVol.111160EnglishArabic (zubair ali zai)
      if you compare them you will see they differ on hadith classification.
      2)In arabic i mean that.Hadith work is for me is a hadith source.
      3)Also consensus can change with time.I once saw a video from a salfi guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSyK-Mj972c&t=1s) where he says there is a "consensus" that bukhari is 100% correct , but that cannot be if al albani and other scholars say that a small amount of hadith are not sahih.So either he doesnt know that (that some hadith scholars say that its not 100% sahih) or he has an other definition of consensus.

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    6. 1-i couldn't find it in the link you gave, the link simply gave multiple volumes, you need to give direct mention of the page where the hadith is found, but nevertheless i found it on sunnah.com
      https://sunnah.com/abudawud/43/309
      but i see now from reading your original comment, you seam to find a bit of confusion between maudu' and Dai'f, Dai'f is a general hadith classification, Maudu' falls under da'if, maudu' literally means a hadith that was attributed to this question matin when it has no connection to it at all, Dai'f isn't just a single classification, daif is a general classification with over 20 sub-classifications that falls under da'if, maudu' is one of them

      2-can you please cite your source?
      3-a small amount of hadiths are weak, that doesn't mean they can fall under sahih bukhari, hence the name (sahih) in the title, Bukhari had his own methodology of determining which and which is not weak, that many scholars and his students followed, weak hadiths can fall under more trivial sources like sunan abu dawood and sunan ibn majah, they can't be found in sahih books, sahih books doesn't contain ALL hadiths

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    7. 1)i dont understand how you couldnt find this one.
      https://archive.org/stream/SunanAbuDawudVol.111160EnglishArabic/Sunan%20Abu%20Dawud%20Vol.%205%20-%204351-5274%20English%20Arabic#page/n399/mode/2up
      if you compare the classifications you will see that sometimes they grade hadiths diffrently.
      2)here you can find works which have hadiths in them.http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?144045-How-many-hadith-collections-in-all
      So you think that every book which contains hadith in it are published today?How do you know this?
      3)But someone can present a hadith from bukhari and than you maybe you could say "yes this is in bukhari but al albani classifed this hadith in bukhari as weak so i dont accept it."

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    8. 1-i'm trying to acquire the arabic version of this edition of sunan abi dawood, i couldn't find it, where did you get this link from? however i was able to acquire the copy where albani made his classification, the hadith is found in arabic in his book Silsila alahadith al'daifa wa al mawdu'a under hadith 5286
      however the scholar who apperantly worked in that edition is https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B2%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A_%D8%B2%D8%A6%D9%8A#.D9.85.D8.A4.D9.84.D9.81.D8.A7.D8.AA.D9.87
      a modren pakistani scholar, but after reading the later pages i came to find out where is the confusion
      if you read the classification it says hasan in chain, rather than hasan alone, if you continue on reading forward there are examples where he cite (Hasan Chain) and others were he just say (hasan), apparently this scholar agrees with albani, albani in the same book i cited casted doubt on one of the narrators, this scholar only stated that this is hasan in chain rather than just hasan authenticty
      2-these books not all of them are jurisdictional sources, some are hadith related gathering books, where they gather hadiths already preexisting in other books
      i already have all of these books in Arabic in my external hard drive
      3-bukhari =/= sahih bukhari, bukhari books are simply his main collection, sahih bukhari are the collection of the hadiths that he classified as sahih from his main collection, kinda like a filter

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    9. with regards to different rulings, firstly albani said it was mawdu meaning fabricated and the other guy said daif meaning weak. so both ways it wouldnt be accepted.

      however the difference may have been because they didnt have all the information about a specific person in the isnad maybe because they wer very classical lived in the old days and didnt get that information, or because of language barrier

      or they had a different opinion on one of the narrators, or content of hadith.

      no 2 persons are the same, and no 2 brains are the same people have different views on the narrators.

      mawdu and daif would both be rejected either way

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  10. not really, i've watched his videos he simply regurgitates the age old arguments which have been debunked a 10000000000 times before

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  11. I dont have any videos for you to debunk as youtube makes me physically cringe but if you intend to refute some articles I'd hope you'd refute Mike Muluk's, who is a quora user,pinned answer about ISIS being islamic which is getting really popular in Quora. 6.8K upvotes is actually a lot it's a lot like youtube likes and as you can see his answer got a lot of views. If you have a computer please report his answer as factually incorrect or tell one of your readers to do so. Thank you.

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    1. Well, i decided to reply to it instead of posting my account there, since the blog was not active at the moment, i decided to use it while i work on my video

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