Saturday, April 28, 2018

Shari Gaber What you don’t know about Quran, Much ado about nothing part-3

Introduction:

My most senier apology for being so late in part-3, been so busy with work and studies, but I’ll try to be more consice since my new job is over 14 hours 6 days aweak , so my apologies for being so late, on top of that my enginnering studies hold me back, since this is cleared up let’s continue on exposing sharif, as he wasn’t even exposed enough already, infact there is a new fiasco unfolded while I was writing this article, that forced me to reedite it, will explain it later.


I will be making comments on the latest Fiasco regarding Sharif being accused of Isdira aladean (blasphemy of religion) by the courts later on this article, but we need to address the allegations made by him in his video on Quran, hopefully completely debunking the video by end of Part-4 including his allegations on the British library Quranic Manuscript and his insane logic there.

Continuing from Part-2

@15:29 Sharif state “or verse that state {There is not upon the blind [any] constraint nor upon the lame constraint nor upon the ill constraint nor upon yourselves when you eat from your [own] houses}(based on sahih translation 24:61) meaning there is no constraint upon the blind nor ill nor you to eat from your houses, I don’t understand , meaning the one who brought this entire universe , made scenarios and drama and wars so he can reveal at the end a book where he says oh guys there is no problem you eat from your houses, a sentence that makes no need, and on the same verse he says {or [from houses] whose keys you possess or [from the house] of your friend.} Meaning if I stole the keys of someone it’s ok for me to get in and eat? And on the same verse it says {There is no blame upon you whether you eat together or separately.} there is no problem for you to eat alone or together, guys humanity would be scattered without this verse (humanity is doomed because it got ignorant people like you sharif) there is no problem we eat alone or together, is there a third option? Meaning one verse has 20 things that are not logical, and aside from it being illogical, the verse alone is not needed, it has no meaning, so if you removed it from Quran, the Quran alone will not be affected, and those who won’t read it won’t lose a thing”

oh dear lord, where to start, first he makes his video that quran in origin is a Syriac text, now he turn it into (The quran doesn’t make sense)? Make up your mind sharif, Make a formula for your video, let’s forget the fact that he didn’t even bother to show any tafsir, have you noticed that he didn’t even do his usual (fast screenshots) images of the tafsirs he uses on almost every verse he cites? Why he only bothered to make up his own commentary on this? Because he realizes that even if he shows a single tafsir and someone manage to pause the screen and read it, it will just make him look like a fool, and infact there is a story behind this verse if this verse was not revealed people will struggle at that time in relation to that story to how to deal with the issue ahead of them
And many ex muslims shared that part of his video to claim the quran is incoherent, but since the freedom of speech warrior Sharif Blocked me I could not access these tweets and show them as evidence, never the less let’s see what is the reason behind this verse

In case if you don’t know, your houses here means your children houses, ill are mentioned because they feared they might infect others with their illness

حدثنا أبو بكر قال حدثنا وكيع عن سفيان عن قيس عن مقسم قال : كانوا يتقون أن يأكلوا مع الأعمى والأعرج والمريض حتى نزلت هذه الآية : ليس على الأعمى حرج ولا على الأعرج حرج ولا على المريض حرج[1]


Translation:
Abu Bakir told us said: Waki’ told us from sufian from Qais from muqasim : they feared to eat with the blind, and with the disabled and the ill until this verse was revealed: There is not upon the blind [any] constraint nor upon the lame constraint nor upon the ill

How useless, how unneeded, if this verse was not revealed people at that time will constraint from eating with the lame (disabled) ill and blind, never the less let’s continue
It's generally accepted by the majority of scholars that what is meant here by “your houses” means your children houses as explained by several scholars such as Imam Alsa’di in his tafsir of the verse




أي: ليس على هؤلاء جناح في ترك الأمور الواجبة التي تتوقف على واحد منها، وذلك كالجهاد ونحوه مما يتوقف على بصر الأعمى أو سلامة الأعرج أو صحة للمريض، ولهذا المعنى العام الذي ذكرناه أطلق الكلام في ذلك ولم يقيد كما قيد قوله: {ولا على أنفسكم} أي: حرج {أن تأكلوا من بيوتكم} أي: بيوت أولادكم[2]




Translation:
Meaning: there is no constraint upon those to leave important daily duties such as Jihad and others which is stopped by any disability, such as being blind or unable to walk, or illness, and for this it’s a general meaning which we mentioned and not limited to those conditions as god said {and upon yourself} meaning constraint {that you eat from your houses} meaning the houses of your children.

So to recap the verse discusses two issues, one people distant from eating with ill and disabled as discussed above by imam ibn Shaiba, that their children distained eating with them duo to fear of infection or them being disabled, so this verse was revealed to explain it’s ok to leave important duties such as jihad since you are disabled and unable to do it, and go and eat at the houses of your children (your houses) and not be constrained since you are not in your actual home eating your own food but rather the food of your siblings, it’s also revealed to refrain siblings from being distained from their parents duo to fear of illness and disability
In short, this verse is revealed to show those with disabilities that they are not forced to engage in jihad and they are allowed to eat at their children houses without constraint and to refrain children from being distant from them

Now let us explore if the majority of scholars agree on this




هذا الذي ذكره الأصحاب حكم مال الأجنبي . أما القريب والصديق فإن تشكك في رضاه بالأكل من ثمره وزرعه وبيته لم يحل الأكل منه بلا خلاف وإن غلب على ظنه رضاه به ، وأنه لا يكره أكله منه جاز أن يأكل القدر الذي يظن رضاه به ويختلف ذلك باختلاف الأشخاص والأزمان والأحوال والأموال ولهذا تظاهرت دلائل الكتاب والسنة وفعل سلف الأمة وخلفها ، قال الله تعالى : { ولا على أنفسكم أن تأكلوا من بيوتكم أو بيوت آبائكم } إلى قوله تعالى : { أو صديقكم }[3]



Translation:
That of which the Sahaba mentioned regarding the money of the foreigner, either a closely related or friend, if you doubt his agreement regarding eating from his fruit from his planting, and from his house, eating from it is not halal without any disagreement among scholars even if he thought he agreed, and it’s not forbidden for him to eat so long as it’s on the permitted level, and that is different in relation to how people allow it in different places and different times, and depending on money spend, and for that many evidence shown in Quran and Sunnah and based on the acts of the precursors of ummah (salaf), and what succeeded it, god said { or verse that state {There is not upon the blind [any] constraint nor upon the lame constraint nor upon the ill constraint nor upon yourselves when you eat from your [own] houses or houses of your fathers} to his words {or your friend}
Even Ibn Taymia agrees


{ ولا على أنفسكم أن تأكلوا من بيوتكم أو بيوت آبائكم } أن بيت الولد مندرج في بيوتكم[4]


Translation:
{There is not upon the blind [any] constraint nor upon the lame constraint nor upon the ill constraint nor upon yourselves when you eat from your [own] houses or your parent's houses} the house of a son is among {your houses}
Even ibn Qudama agreed



ثم ذكر بيوت سائر القرابات إلا الأولاد لم يذكرهم ; لأنهم دخلوا في قوله : { بيوتكم } . فلما كانت بيوت أولادهم كبيوتهم[5]



Translation:
Then he mentioned the houses of the rest of the relatives, except for children; because they are in the meaning of the word {your houses} because the houses of their children are your houses


And that is not even a controversial meaning among scholars at that time, there are even people who used this verse, scholars like the grand Imam ibn Hazim noted in his book Almuhala bil Athar that people used this verse

ثم نظرنا في قول من احتج به من رأى إسقاط القطع عن الابن إذا سرق من مال أبويه ، وعن كل ذي رحم محرمة ؟ فوجدناهم يحتجون بقول الله تعالى { ولا على أنفسكم أن تأكلوا من بيوتكم أو بيوت آبائكم أو بيوت أمهاتكم } الآية إلى قوله تعالى : { أو صديقكم } . قال : فإباحة الله تعالى الأكل من بيوت هؤلاء يقتضي إباحة دخول منازلهم بغير إذنهم ، فإذا جاز لهم دخول منازلهم بغير إذنهم لم يكن مالهم محرزا عنهم ، ولا يجب القطع في السرقة من غير حرز .



Translation:
Then we looked on those who make the allegation based on claims if a son should not face the Hukum of a thief if he stole from his father money, and is everything from relatives to own are haram? We found them making these allegations using the verse {There is not upon the blind [any] constraint nor upon the lame constraint nor upon the ill constraint nor upon yourselves when you eat from your [own] houses} to {or your friend}, he (reffering to the ones making the allegations) said: allah allowing to eat from those houses nessitate allowance to enter their houses without permission, so if entering their houses without permission their money should not be off limit, and the one who steals with these limits should not receive theft penalty


Have you noticed something? Not only this shows how people thought of this verse but it also contains an allegation similar to what sharif stated, that you can go and steal from them so long as you got the key

Now on the same page, Ibn Hazim educate dimwits like sharif



فأما الآية فحق ، ولا دليل فيها على ما ذكروا ، بل هي حجة عليهم ، وقد كذبوا فيها أيضا : أما كونها لا دليل فيها على ما ادعوه ، فإنه ليس فيها إسقاط القطع على من سرق من هؤلاء - لا بنص ولا بدليل - وإنما فيها إباحة الأكل لا إباحة الأخذ بلا خلاف من أحد من الأمة ؟ فإذا قالوا : قسنا الأخذ على الأكل ؟ قلنا لهم : القياس كله باطل ، ثم لو كان حقا لكان هذا منه عين الباطل ; لأن القياس عند القائلين به قياس الشيء على نظيره في العلة أو في شبه بوجه ما ، ولا يجوز عند أحد من الأمة - لا مجيز قياس ولا مانع - قياس الضد على ضده ، ولا مضادة أكثر ومن التحريم والتحليل ، وأنتم مجمعون - معنا ومع الناس - على أن الأخذ لعروض الأخ ، والأخت ، والعم ، والعمة ، والخال ، والخالة ، والأب ، والأم ، والصديق ، من بيوتهم ، ونقل ما فيها حرام ، وأن الأكل حلال ، فكيف استحللتم قياس حكم الحرام الممنوع على حكم الحلال المباح ؟ وأما قولهم في الآية ، وكذبهم فيها ، قول هذا الجاهل المقدم " إن إباحة الله تعالى الأكل من بيوت هؤلاء يقتضي إباحة دخول منازلهم بغير إذنهم " . فليت شعري أين وجدوا هذا في هذه الآية أو في غيرها ؟ فيدخل الصديق منزل صديقه بغير إذنه ؟ هذا عجب من العجب ، أما سمعوا قول الله تعالى { يا أيها الذين آمنوا ليستأذنكم الذين ملكت أيمانكم والذين لم يبلغوا الحلم } إلى قوله تعالى { فليستأذنوا كما استأذن الذين من قبلهم } .[6]

Translation:
As regards to the verse it’s true, but there is no evidence to what they say, infact it’s an evidence against them, and they lied about it, in regards to that there is no evidence in it for what they claim, it has no prohipiting of cutting hand of theaf, with no text and with no evidence, infact it allow eating not allow taking, not allow taking from someone without their permission in ummah, If they said we messured taking based on eating, we say that the messurment are all false, and if it was true from this it will not be allowed, because messurement based on those who said it (reffering to those making allegation) deep in it has a flawed method , it’s based on a claim or something similar to eating on some form, and no one is allowed among ummah, not from any messured not from any exempt, measuring something against it, and no prohiption more and taking from prohiption something halal, and you and us among people agree already that it’s haram to take the belongs of a brother, sister uncle, the aunt, father and mother or friend taking from their houses are haram, and eating from it that is halal, so how did you made the haram into halal? As for their allegation based on the verse, this only steam out of pure ignorance( like sharif) that “since it’s hala to eat from these people houses then it’s halal to take from them without their permission” oh my white hair where did they came up with this from this verse? So a friend will enter his friend house without his permission? This is wonder of wanders I wish they would just listen to what God said { O you who have believed, let those whom your right hands possess and those who have not [yet] reached puberty among you ask permission of you [before entering]}(24:58) until {And when the children among you reach puberty, let them ask permission [at all times] as those before them have done.}(24:59)

Ibn Hazim already as it seems was dealing with people as stupid as sharif, even their statements (statements similar to what sharif said) made him wonder as to where they got it from.





Quran means Christian scripture in Syriac? Sharif losing his mind.


@16:33-18:50 sharif state “there is a verse in Quran that says {And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them} but this verse was contradicting what happned, muhammad himself didn’t know the meaning of many words in Quran that it suppose to be Arabic and in the language of his people, and his mission is to show them and explain to them it’s meaning , Tabari onse said “from Aisha she onse said: the prophet never explained any verses in Quran except for few numbers tafsir tabari page 84” that Muhammad had a habit that he won’t explain verses in quran except for few small ones that are alreadly logicly obvius and didn’t need explaination , and that is expected even if this was a lie , because if Muhammad indeed explained quran and showed it to his people, we won’t find 10’s of thousands of tafsirs that is increased every year with every new shaikh appear, in simple the Quran we have today a simple book for all people and even if it had a tafsir, it will need a single tafsir, and it’s tafsir  of Muhammad, because this is the essential mission that he was brought to, how could you say that quran was revealed in the tongue of it’s people and it’s people didn’t even understand it, and it has words that are nither Arabic nor understood, and if you are gonna bring a book with words that are not understood, no one will receive a revelation will say he understands it, and will not direct the words to them and they understand it, and no one on span of 1400 years understand it’s meaning, and have thousands of tafsirs and difference in meaning, then why did you reveal it? That is the reason why translating Quran to any language is near impossible task, not because quran was not supposed to be written except in Arabic, or that Arabic is a language none are like it, or that Arabic is the language of the god, no but because there are words in it that were not understood, nither it’s understood in Arabic nor in any language, it’s not supposed to be translated (shows a scholar responding to question” is it allowed to translate Quran to English” scholar respond with “no it should not” we will address this video later) and even you won’t be able to translate the word Quran itself, a question for you (this will be our topic, addressing the claim of Quran meaning in Syriac) do you know what Quran means? The book you are ready to die for you don’t know what it means, and if you go and look you will find hounded of tafsirs , the word Quran is not an Arabic word, it’s a Syriac word, it’s origin is the word Quryan, and it’s meaning in Syriac? the book of Christian ritual (showing screenshots of Luxenburg failed book)
Based on the following screenshots


So let us now reform the words given above and we shall see where this silly origin word come from and we shall address
The word is roughly read as follows ܩܪܝܢܐ
Qryna Not Qeryana
As constructed
ܐ spells ā
ܢ spells nun
ܝ spells y
ܪ spells Ra
ܩ spells qa
So putting it together spells Qryna[7]
Not only luxenburg twisted the word to fit his agenda, but sharif followed the example
In Arabic, it will be spelled قرينا or قرين in contrast to Quran قران
But the issue here is not on spelling, we will see later where they got this allegation from it’s an issue of understanding dictionaries

To search for word meaning it must be reduced to its root using the following website
there are only two results that yelled ܩܪܝܢܐ
the first one [8]
shows the following meanings
English: 1) agent of ܩܵܪܹܐ: a student ; 2) Oraham : a reader , one authorized to read the lessons in a place of worship , a caller ;

the second one [9]
shows the following meanings
English :1) a lesson , a reading assigned to a pupil to be studied ; 2) a lection , a reading of the Holy Scriptures, a portion of Scriptures read during a divine service ; 3) Oraham : a reader ; 4) NENA : = ܩܪܵܝܬܵܐ : reading ; 5) Rhétoré ; = ܩܵܪܝܵܢܘܼܬ݂ܵܐ : education / schooling ; Rhétoré ; ܕܗܲܡ ܐܵܢܵܐ ܐܝܼܬ ܠܝܼ ܚܲܟܡܵܐ ܩܸܪܝܵܢܵܐ : I myself have some education / schooling ; ܩܸܪܝܵܢܵܐ ܦܪܝܼܫܵܐ : a tutorial , a private lesson ;
Lection in case if you don’t know meaning a reading of a particular copy or edition
This common claim seems to come from J. Payne Smith's (Mrs. Margoliouth) A Compendious Syriac Dictionary

So apparently this is the source of the allegation that luxenburg and sharif relied upon, the confusion seems to come from the example given under of the invocation of the holy trinity at baptism, however, this is an example, the proper meaning is invocation or calling by the separating doted marker later, as commonly shown in every dictionary
For example in lisan al arab

Translation:
10.Harz
Hariz something, meaning keep it safe:- the police kept a body from the crime scene and its evidence

So apparently if we follow sharif logic, the example is the actual meaning not the provided meaning by the lexicon
Same follow from the screenshot shown above from sharif source (Payne Smith)
The same applies to the two links provided from the website


Now that is just pathetic at best, taking the provided example as the real meaning rather than the initial word itself
When I first saw this I was at lose for words as to how deceptive sharif and lexnburg are
Infact the very man cited by sharif gaber in his video, Theodore noldeke makes his comments on the issue (cited by sharif on his own screenshots)[10]


While Noldeke does argue for the claim of Syriac influence in Quran even on that initial page, at no place does he argue that Quryana means Christian Ritual

At page 209 in footnotes states the following[11]

So to add this up, the word Qyrana simply means lector, or lesson, rather than what sharif and Luxenberg stated that it means the book of Christian Ritual
a word adopted from a foreign language with little or no modification.

So again to correct it, Qyriana doesn’t mean “Christian scripture” or “Christian Ritual” rather it means a lecture or a lesson which can mean just about anything
Infact Ritual doesn’t even come close to the meaning of lecture or lesson

Even if we take Theodore noldeke (sharif primary source) which doesn’t say in the slightest that Quryana means Christian Ritual it won’t make sense simply because sharif and lexuburg rely on the examples rather than the initial meaning

So all this confusion came from using the example provided Payne Smith dictionary as the proper meaning? Is this kid serius? All of that if we accept that Quryana means lecture based on smith’s dictionary, but as we saw from Sharif primary source (Theodore noldeke) and from the two links provided, Quryana at no point means “Christian Ritual” even if we assume the word Quran have any link to it



Quran is a Christian text, based on words of a fool

@18:55 Sharif state “have you ever asked yourself why Quran mentioned the name of Christ and Isa 36 times and mentioned Muhammad name 4 times only? 36 times Quran speaks about jesus and his life and only 4 time mentions Muhammad it’s like the book was originally made for jesus (remember this point) and even those 4 times that Muhammad name was mentioned in it, the name could apply to jesus if you take the word Muhammad as meaning, not someone name , and the evidence is that in only time mentions a name of a prophet he never mentioned Muhammad, he said his name is ahmed, of course, shikhs will tell you the same thing, the name ahmed is also Muhammad , but if that is the case he won’t say his name is ahmed, he would say someone ahmed (a disctiobtion, look how much of a mistake that is by sharif), someone great, but said his name is ahmed, meaning described him with the name called him with the name, the quran is clear on everything but here not so clear , and another time he says {Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men} and that is applied on Jesus (pay attention to this mistake aswell) jesus never married nor had children, but Muhammad had children and married 12 times (showing a clip of game of thrones character to insult Muhammad which is the reason why I decided to take aggressive tone against this kid) and there is another verse that states {Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him.} the problem is that there is another verse {The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him.} the verse is the same verse is the same verse, only Muhammad name was replaced by messiah son of mary, not convinced? Ok there is an old coin found in Palestine dates back to 647 to 658 , meaning after muslim governors entered Palestine after 10 years at least, the coin has Muhammad written on it, but on the back has an image of someone carrying a cross, I want you to think calmly (try not to hurt yourself while doing it sharif) how a country that is supposed to be Islamic, has the name Muhammad, and someone carrying a cross? the cross that Islam reject, because it says Jesus was never crucified and all of that was lies is the official coin of the country, how? You might say this is a sign of coexistence and peace by arab rullers, the rullers who when entered prevented any churches to be built , and prevented any cross to show up, not on a neckless and not on a church (oh mine was a contradiction) the same story is found on a Syrian coin dates back to 686 to 687 the coin has the name Muhammad and next to it someone carrying a cross , I’m not here to explain to you what happened because literally, no one knew how it happened, all of that are attempts to imagin this period , all that I was trying to tell you is that the history you grew up learning and thinking this is the history of islam that is not the real history, the real history is very vauge , all that I was trying to tell you is that all evidence shows that this quran, most of it are attempt to translate Chrisitan syriac texts, and not just in words or sentence or even the book name, but even the stories in it are majority stories found in other legends”

oh, mine that was painful to type in, so much nonsense so much lies one can’t fathom where he got that from? He actually provides the source, a book titled The Hidden Origins of Islam: New Research Into Its Early History by Karl-Heinz Ohlig (Editor), Gerd-R Puin (Editor)
It’s not an actual book but collection of articles and essays, but from what I just saw from sharif, this seems pathetic at best
But let us deconstruct his arguments
So his logic is Jesus mentioned 36 times, therefore, the book was made for Jesus?
That is a non sequitur fallacy
How is that even related, Moses is mentioned 136 times in quran does that make it a book for Moses now? Where is the logic here?

“and the evidence is that in only time mentions a name of a prophet he never mentioned Muhammad, he said his name is ahmed, of course, shikhs will tell you the same thing, the name ahmed is also Muhammad , but if that is the case he won’t say his name is ahmed, he would say someone ahmed (a disctiobtion, look how much of a mistake that is by sharif), someone great, but said his name is ahmed, meaning described him with the name called him with the name,”
so don’t call him Ahmed, give him a description so it fit with Muhammad meaning? How does that make sense? Instead of giving him a name give him a distribution?
Ok we actually have sources from Muhammad himself about his names where he acknowledges the name, Ahmed
Narrated Jubair bin Mut`im:

Allah's Messenger () said, "I have five names: I am Muhammad and Ahmad; I am Al-Mahi through whom Allah will eliminate infidelity; I am Al-Hashir who will be the first to be resurrected, the people being resurrected thereafter; and I am also Al-`Aqib (i.e. There will be no prophet after me).[12]

But, Sharif will say even this hadith from Muhammad himself should not be count, because….reasons?
I never used a single tafsir here no explanation, I used the words of Muhammad himself
In fact, this turn against him, if it was a description it would possibly fit Jesus not Muhammad if Quran said Someone Ahmed (blessed) rather than an actual name, that will insert Jesus to the verse scope, but since Quran narrowed it down to Ahmed literally this puts no room for Jesus interpretation.

“, and another time he says {Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men} and that is applied on Jesus Jesus never married nor had children, but Muhammad had children and married 12 times”
I’m at a total loss, even the screenshots provided by sharif just puts this statement to rest


Notice under red line the verse read {but the messenger of God and last prophet}
How does that fit Jesus? Why you didn’t continue to read it? Or perhaps you know your fans have the attention span of toddlers that they will not notice the rest of the verse?
Christians don’t even believe Jesus as the last prophet in fact nowhere in the new testament Jesus ever said he is the last prophet read Acts 13:1 and 1 Corinthians 12:10

“Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men….And He gave some, [the gift of being] apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.”  Ephesians 4: 8,11-13
There is no foundation for the claim that Jesus is the last prophet and apostle of god, many saints and apostles came after him including the founder of Christianity Paul, who is regarded as prophet as well
So that verse when read completely could never refer to Jesus (we will see more of this style from sharif later)

“and there is another verse that states {Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him.} the problem is that there is another verse {The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him.} the verse is the same verse is the same verse, only Muhammad name was replaced by messiah son of mary”
ah another deceptive method of not fully reading the verse

Let’s read the first one
3:144
{Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels [to unbelief]? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all, but Allah will reward the grateful.}
He dies? How does that fit Jesus again? Muslims don’t believe Jesus died on the cross, yet this verse clearly states that Muhammad died, so basically Islam became now a Christian faith the reject the foundation of Christian belief (death and resurrection on the cross)?

The other verse
5:75
{The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.}
this is the only one that could fit Jesus because there is no mention of prophet Muhammad mother anywhere and since Prophet Muhammad was an orphan as well
It just bothers me how could anyone not fact check him apart from Muslims, the only thing atheists have neglected as an error in his video was the allegation that Arius believed Jesus as a prophet, the rest they find is perfect
for the love of god, you only need to read each verse of 3:144 and 5:75 to see the clear difference between each other, not just cut off the part that is identical between each other, and for the love of god he already provided a screenshot of the verse reading it in full can just make you doubt how he researches his works

“Ok there is an old coin found in Palestine dates back to 647 to 658 , meaning after muslim governors entered Palestine after 10 years atleast, the coin has Muhammad written on it, but on the back has an image of someone carrying a cross, I want you to think calmly (try not to hurt yourself while doing it sharif) how a country that is supposed to be Islamic, has the name Muhammad, and someone carrying a cross? the cross that islam reject, because it says Jesus was never crucified and all of that was lies is the official coin of the country, how? You might say this is a sign of coexistence and peace by arab rulers, the rulers who when entered prevented any churches to be built , and prevented any cross to show up, not on a chain and not on a church (oh mine was a contradiction) the same story is found on a Syrian coin dates back to 686 to 687 the coin has the name Muhammad and next to it someone carrying a cross”

So let me get this straight if a coin has an individual image in it, and a name attached somewhere in it to that individual in back, therefore that image is representative of him?
Let’s see
So since on the left (of this Saudi currency), it says no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger, therefore the figure on the right must be Muhammad (astaghfur Allah)? Really? Is that how the authors of the hidden origin of Islam and sharif think?

“You might say this is a sign of coexistence and peace by Arab rulers, the rulers who when entered prevented any churches to be built, and prevented any cross to show up, not on a neckless and not on a church”
So the rulers never allow any cross to be shown up on anything like neckless or churches, but allowed it to be on a coin? The central trading item for any country? Sharif, do you even double check your own video script before you contradict yourself? Either the rulers never allowed any depiction of the cross to show up or allowed it, make your mind
I mean the contraction alone is enough to put to rest the claim we haven’t even bothered to check this coin and if it was authentic, Sharif never bothered to prove the authenticity of this coin, he got this from a book by a famous Christian missionary Robert Spencer, a man never even bothered in his book to prove the authenticity of the coin
Now a simple answer to this is that these are byzantine coins, they were already predominant in Palestine, so Muslims when they entered they added something to represent them so it has to be the name of Muhammad
Notice the gradual evolution of this particular coin for example
as these coins bare striking similarities to each other, each one depicts a figure on it with different inscriptions on it’s back along with several different representative figures from Neapolis to Cistophorus of Septimius all bare the same theme

the Same logic and example apply to the Syrian coin, you just can’t say if one part of a coin carries Muhammad name and other part got a figure with a cross, therefore, that figure is Muhammad, it’s a non sequitur


This article is already long enough so we will continue on Par-4




[1] Al-musanaf by Imam Abdullah ibn abi Shaiba vol.5 Chapter: eating with the ill
[2] Tafsir Al-Sa’di
[3] Al-majmu’ Sharih almuhathab by grand imam Al-Nawawi vol.9 page.59
[4] Majmu’ Al-Fatawa vol.15 page.46
[5] Al-mughni by ibn Qudama vol.5 page.395
[6] ibid
[7] http://dukhrana.com/lexicon/search.php
[8] http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/sureth/dosearch.php?searchkey=26154&language=id
[9] http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/sureth/dosearch.php?searchkey=13161&language=id
[10] The history of Quran by thedore noldeke page.27
[11] Ibid.209
[12]Sahih al-Bukhari 3532

218 comments:

  1. Can you explain this hadiths. I saw one on david woods blog:

    ""Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: (These meteors) are shot neither at the death of anyone nor on the birth of anyone. Allah, the× Exalted and Glorious, issues× Command when He decides to do a thing. Then (the Angels) supporting the× Throne sing His glory, then sing the dwellers of heaven who are near to them until this glory of× God reaches them who are in the heaven of this world. Then those who are near the supporters of the× Throne ask these supporters of the Throne: What your× Lord has said? And they accordingly inform them what He says. Then the dwellers of heaven seek information from them until this information reaches the heaven of the world. In this process of transmission (the jinn snatches) what he manages to overhear and he carries it to his friends. And when the× Angels see the jinn they attack them with meteors. If they narrate only which they manage to snatch that is correct but they alloy it with lies and make additions to it.""
    Sahih Muslim 26:5538


    The Prophet said: "When Allah decrees a matter in heaven, the angels beat their wings in submission to his decree (with a sound) like a chain beating a rock. Then "When fear is banished from their hearts, they say: 'What is it that your Lord has said?' They say: 'The truth. And He is The Most High, The Most Great." He said: 'Then the eavesdroppers (from among the jinn) listen out for that, one above the other, so (one of them) hears the words and passes it on to the one beneath him. The Shihab (shooting star) may strike him before he can pass it on to the one beneath him and the latter can pass it on to the soothsayer or sorcerer, or it may not strike him until he has passed it on. And he ads one hundred lies to it, and only that word which was overheard from the heavens is true."
    : Book 1, Hadith 199


    Angels attack devils with meteors or stars,so this seems mythological and unscientific?

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  2. already addressed this
    http://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2017/11/why-masked-arab-is-masked-falsehood.html

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    1. You say its not star itself but part of it,but these hadiths clearly say it is the star or meteor thrown at devils.



      ""Angels see the jinn they attack them with meteors.""


      ""The Shihab (shooting star) may strike him"

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    2. Shihab isnt a shooting star but it is the burning flame that eminates from the star.

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    3. that is exactly how the quranic verse supposedly says it, it also doesn't say part of the star or meteor, but makes it in a nutshell, same methodology applies to hadith

      a perfect example is the verse given by sharif here, (your houses) but looking at how historically it's viewed, your houses simply means your siblings houses, don't take everything Quran says literally, same apply to hadith

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    4. Salam. Could you explain the hadith which says that the cure for sciatica is the fat of a sheeps goat.

      Isnt this unscientific.

      Is there proof for this

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    5. So what does exactly "part of the star" mean? Is it like a part is taken from the stars and thrown at devils? But still isnt this kinda mythological? We know stars are just celestial objects

      Also I heard another interpreatation from a quranist that the verse talks about fortunetellers.ever heard something like that? Does it hold water?

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    6. that comment got deleted with the notification post as i informed everyone in it, the hadith as far as I'm concern is sahih, but there is no research or scientific proof (or disproof) of this as far as I'm concern, no one in medical circle is aware of this method, and there is no proof against it.

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    7. i suppose it means the star emits something out of it, a heat ray or something that throw the devils away, not the star itself goes on and throw itself at the devils, stars does emit plasma radiation out of it, that is fact.

      i never heard of that interpretation.

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  3. What was the cause of death of the prophet? Is it true it was poisoning?

    Thanks

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    1. No, the prophet didn't die from poisoning, infact he lived for long after that hadith, infact he lived for three years after that, some speculate it was fever.

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  4. Do you plan to make a post refuting hadith-rejecters(quranists)? They always try to back up their claims with verses like "Allahs book is enough",so we dont need hadiths. They deem hadiths mere fabrications

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  5. 2 questions

    1. What do you think of this vid

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K1QxVGr4ulw

    2. From your knowledge is the niqab obligatory

    Thanks

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  6. Could you explain the hadith of 7 awja dates and how it doesnt go against science?

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    1. Ibn al-Qayyim said:

      This hadith is addressed to a specific audience, such as the people of Madinah and those in the vicinity.

      Zaad al-Ma‘aad vol.4 page.90

      technically speaking based on opinion of scholars this hadith is exclusive to madina and a specific group of people, just like the camel urine hadith

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  7. Hello, I am a Muslim who is having a hell of a time with this hadith. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/377

    Ali has intercourse with a slave without a waiting period, and I heard that Ibn Hajar said this was acceptable because she was prepubescent. This has really made me feel awful for understandable reasons. Can yo explain it to me please? Thanks

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    1. Ok to help you understand it.

      Firstly puberty doesnt determine being able to have intercourse in islam. So if a 8 year old his puberty but physically isnt ready islamically it isnt allowed. But if a 17 year old hasnt hit puberty but is physically and mentally ready there is no problem islamically or logically as there will be no harm they are consensting and they are ready for it.

      Secondly if you took this from reddit the guy keeps claiming ali had raped the girl but this is false.

      So basically the hadith in the first place doesnt mention the waiting period nor the prepubescent thing this all comes from the commentary of ibn hajar

      If we take this commentary as authentic we see she was prepubescent. There is no problen in this if she was mentally and physically ready, she consented and there would be no harm in such a relatiokn.


      I ask you if a girl is prepubescent but is physically mentally spiritually ready, there will be no harm and she consents where is the fault. Why does this puberty suddenly mean they are ready for intercourse, nothing changes they were ready in all aspects before hitting puberty except not being able to have children

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    2. But how do we know she consented? Why would a girl captured by the enemy consent for sex with them?

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    3. I've been busy, ok to answer your question, the part related to sex in the hadith is not in arabic text, it's an insertion by the translators

      according to fatih al bari fi sharih sahih bukhari, the most respected explination of sahih bukhari Kums was the money proclaimed from spoils of war
      there is another riwaya (narration) mentioned by ibn hajar al'asqalani the author of fatih al bari, where ali chosed a slave girl, but no mention of sex, as the word istafa in arabic means chosed

       generaly ask i explained time and time again and again and i have no clue why people never listen to this and continue to cite hadiths that contain mentions of sexual intercourse without caring about what i said before

      You CAN'T have sex with polytheists and you can't have sex with non muslims unless you marry them first, that include slave girls

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    4. that include slave girls
      ---no,marriage is not needed for intercourse


      http://fatwa.islamweb.net/fatwa/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=8747


      Islam also allowed copulation with one’s own slave woman without the nikah and regarded the milkiyyah (ownership) as a substitute for nikah. http://www.thesunniway.com/articles/item/253-slave-women-in-islam


      Jonathan brown confirms this. He goes as far to say "consent is meaningless" (RAPE)
      A male owner of a female slave has the right to sexual access to her. Though he could not physically harm her without potentially being held legally accountable if she complained, her 'consent' would be meaningless since she is his slave.
      https://np.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/3h1abm/this_is_dr_jonathan_brown_professor_at_georgetown/cu3dkhd/

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    5. thanks for the answer, that helps a lot

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    6. As for the question how do we know she consented. This is a rather stupid question why would the hadith say and she consented with ali to have relations.

      Islamically rape is forbidden and this is what imam shafii said similairly in his book kitab al umm

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      that include slave girls
      ---no,marriage is not needed for intercourse


      http://fatwa.islamweb.net/fatwa/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=8747"

      the link you provided provides no sources no refrence for their claims, and here is a link from the same website
      the title above gives it all away

      ( إلا على أزواجكم أو ما ملكت أيمانكم) ما المقصود بجملة ما ملكت أيمانكم في عصرنا الحالى وما حكمه. وشكرا
      except for your wives and your right hand posses, what is meant by this word and it's impication in today age?

      the response from fatwa provide the intial meaning of the verse

      the same website disagree
      https://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=4671&idto=4671&bk_no=15&ID=4571


      your secound link states the same
      “The Scholars said: In this era it is best that he gets married to her so that if she is (turns out to be) a free woman then copulation with her for him is halal through nikah, the same is mentioned in Siraajiyyah.”

      there is one part where they state it's allowed without nikah, however they cite no source at all for their claim

      الفصل الثاني : أن من حرم نكاح حرائرهم من المجوسيات ، وسائر الكوافر سوى أهل الكتاب ، لا يباح وطء الإماء منهن بملك اليمين . في قول أكثر أهل العلم.. وما خالفه فشذوذ لا يعد خلافا وما خالفه فشذوذ لا يعد خلافا
      Chapter two: those who forbade marrige with free of polytheist, and the rest of infidels including people of the book, it's not allowed to have sexual intercourse with right hand possess, and that is the opinion of majority of scholars...and those who disagreed with that are mere abnormality, a minority that is not counted

      the same website again gives the same reference
      https://fatwa.islamweb.net/fatwa/index.php?Id=50902&Option=FatwaId&page=showfatwa

      and respond to your claim

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    8. and do you have any confirmation that this is Dr.Jonathan Brown account?
      ok so all the posts he had are on this reddit post as this account was created recently at the same time as that reddit post was made, do you honestly think that i will believe this is the real Jonathan brown?

      try better propaganda next time

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    9. Wrong. That does not include Christians and jews,only people with no religious book. The website says "except the people of the Book".


      "The scholars have stated that the idol worshipper and those whom have no religious book cannot be approached for sexual intercourse unless they convert to Islam first
      ""Imam Nawawi, Sharh Saheeh Muslim, Kitab: Al Ridaa', Bab: Jawaaz Wati' Al Missbiyyah Ba'd Al Istibraa' wa en Kaana laha Zawj Infasakh, Commentary on Hadith no. 2643,

      So they dont say christians and jews.



      Look in the ottoman era there were harems ,Sultan could have sexual relations with the concubines there,Im turkish and I know my history,sometimes they had so many sex slaves.There were slave markets where people can go and buy women


      Jonathan brown made an AMA so what do you expect? He made an account to use. He said the same thing in facebook but then deleted,that caused a great controversy.you say nothing like this happened?
      https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/02/11/professor-of-islamic-studies-in-u-s-says-nonconsensual-sex-and-slavery-are-okay-but-only-when-practiced-by-muslims/

      https://ibb.co/nyQkwn


      Here,The american scholar Umar suleiman tries to justify sex slavery. Unlike you,He and actually noone,even denies it is permitted in islam.
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1ubtoL95c



      "it is best that he gets married to her so that if she is (turns out to be) a free woman"
      Clearly,this is said lest the woman is actually a free woman,if you bought her you cant know for sure so you had better marry. Its not about prisoners of war



      Do yourself a favour and look up a tafsir for verse 70:30, Mu'minun 5,6 and alike.You will see ma malakat aymanukum means concubine,sex partner,without marriage


      Bonus: look at what ibn umar does to slave girls:
      Narrated Ayoub bin Abdullah al-Lukhmi that ibn Umar said: ‘On the day of the Jalola battle I won a slave-girl, her neck was like a silver ewe.’ Then ibn Umar added: ‘I couldn’t control myself, I immediately jumped on her and began kissing her, while the people were looking at me”
      1. Masail al-Imam Ahmad, page 281
      2. Al-Tarikh al-Kabir of Imam Bukhari, Volume 1 page 419, No. 1339
      3. Musanaf ibn Abi Shayba, Volume 3 page 347

      Muhammad bin Ismail al-Kahlani (d. 1182 H) comments on the tradition in ‘Subul al-Salam’ Volume 3 page 210:
      “You must know that the hadith is significant in relation to the permissibility of enjoying (the slave girl) before she performs ablution (istibra)”

      whenever Ibn Umar wanted to buy a slave-girl, he would inspect her by analysing her legs and placing his hands between her breasts and on her buttocks”
      Sunnan Al-Kubra, Volume 5 page 329

      Imam Al-Baani al-Wahabi termed the tradition as ‘Sahih’ in his book “Mukhtasir Irwa Al-Ghalil Fi Takhrij Ahadith Manar Al-Sabil” Volume 1 page 355 Hadith number 1792.

      Jabir al-Shu’abi said: ‘If a man wants to buy a slave-girl, he can see every part of her body except the vagina’
      Musnaf Abdur Razak, Volume 7 page 287 Tradition 13207

      We read in Fatwa Alamgiri:

      “It is written in Jami’ Sagheer that if someone decided to buy a slave-girl, there is no problem if he touches her feet, chest and both of arms completely and looks at the uncovered organs”
      Fatwa Alamgiri, Volume 9 page 44


      But you still deny there is nothing as sex slavery?

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    10. https://pastebin.com/Svi1QYMh
      My reply

      as stated go find better source than shiapen

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    11. Hi ,as for that Ali hadith, I found another version that says he had sex with her?

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      He sent Ali to us and among the prisoners was a maid-servant (wasifah), who was the best of the prisoners. He set aside a fifth, distributed the rest, and he came out to us with his head dripping wet (from a ritual bath).

      They said, “O Abu al-Hasan, what is this?” Ali said:

      Have you not seen the maid-servant among the prisoners? Indeed, I have divided the spoils and set aside a fifth. She became part of the fifth, then she became part of the household of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, then she became part of the family of Ali, and I have consummated it with her.

      Source: Musnad Aḥmad 22458, Grade: Hasan

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    12. i gained access to the arabic text, one of the narrators is Yahya bin Sa'id who as far as i looked into him is regarded as weak
      https://library.islamweb.net/hadith/RawyDetails.php?RawyID=33712
      bukhari did note that abdul jalil (who is among the narrators) is trust worthy, but since we have a weak source in narration we can reject this one

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    13. Ok so i just doubled checked, Yahya bin Sa'id the one in this narration is different and he is not weak
      however i did look up the arabic text and it does reflect the english translation correctly
      the work is  وقعت بها which ruffly translated into completing the marriage with sexual intercourse (consummating) so from start we see from this verse is that Ali Married her, and never had sexual intercourse outside of marriage
      according to lisan al arab
      Waqa' (the word in question) :
      a man having sexual intercourse with his wife


      so in conclusion Ali married her and never raped or had forced sexual relations with her as i always discuss


      next time when you have an issue regarding rape try and find out if the person in question married the individual

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    14. Which hadith is weak? The one in bukhari?

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  8. Could u explain the whole thing about 4 witnesses and especially this hadith

    That Sa'd b. 'Ubadah said to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) : What do you think if I find with my wife a man ; should I give him some time until I bring four witnesses ?" He said: "Yes". ( abu dawud 4533)

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    1. read 24:3-9 of Quran and you will understand

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    2. Oh so the witness in this case wouls only be the husband as his witness counts for 4 in such cases?

      However this still seems to counteract the hadith as it says give him time until i bring four witnesses.

      This makes it seem you let the relations between this guy and your wife go on until you have brought 4 people to see it. Because if it was only the husbands testimony there wouldnt be any need of giving him time right?

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    3. The point of the verse is that if women testimony is half of man always then why is it here her testimony is equal ?

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  9. Is there any proof outside of muslim sources that the prophet sent letters to those kings and rulers like heraclius, negus etc.

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  10. I have a question with regards this hadith inshaAllah

    Bukhari: That he heard Muawiya bin Abi Sufyan (talking) on ​​the pulpit in the year when he performed the Hajj. He took a tuft of hair that was in the hand of an orderly and said, "O people of Medina! Where are your learned men? I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) forbidding such a thing as this (ie false hair) and he used to say, 'The Israelis were destroyed when their ladies practiced this habit (or using false hair to lengthen their locks).

    Could you explain the end where it says the jews were destroyed because of this. And badr al din al ayni says the false hair was the reason for their destructiin.

    However this seems silly and also unsubstantiated historically in jewish history

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    1. it doesn't say anywhere the jews were destroyed, rather isralis

      according to 'umda al qari fi sharih sahih bukhari page.109 another respectable explanation exegesis of sahih bukhari
      what the prophet meant here is that they are doomed by doing this they fill into munkar (denial) and became cursed

      not that they died because of it

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  11. Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah akhi.

    Firstly jazakallah khair for all these great refutations.

    Secondly i had a question with regards a hadith which i might have a mistaken understanding about because it seems to clearly go against science the way i understand it.

    The hadith is this:

    Allah created Adam from a handful which he took from the whole of the earth ; so the children of Adam are in accordance with the earth : some red, some white, some black, some a mixture, also smooth and rough, bad and good.

    It makes it seem that we have dufferent races and colours because of the different dirts used to create adam and we also have good and bad people for the different dirt to create adam and smooth and rough as for the different structure of the various dirts to create adam.

    However we know this is wrong scientifically.

    Could you help inshaAllah

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    1. "It makes it seem that we have dufferent races and colours because of the different dirts used to create adam and we also have good and bad people for the different dirt to create adam and smooth and rough as for the different structure of the various dirts to create adam."
      no where does it says we are different because of different dirt color, infact if you read it in arabic which again sunnah.com uses strange translation, it says we are different based on earth diversity, not because of dirt color, no where is dirt color is mentioned at all, infact it says from all over earth which means all of earth materials were used to create us, and our personality represent the material that took part in our creation, soft and smooth are still part of rough and bad people only the rough part represent them most
      infact you can go far and say this is a figure of speech and is not meant to be taken literally, and even if you go so far and take it literally, no where does it says we are different based on dirt color

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    2. Red white and black are still part of white people and black people and red people (red could mean taned) only that dirt color represent the skin color that it took form from, white and red are still part of black skin color, but black is representative the most.

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    3. no where does it says we are different based on dirt color


      But it says "some white,some red.." ? Does not that imply its because of diffirent dirt colours used to create Adam?

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    4. That is in reference to our skin colour not dirt
      Dirt colour partake in all creation
      Blacks have the same skin as white apart from the pigmentation that gives them their Color

      It's only only the dirt colour that is the dominant facture other dirt colours are presented

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  12. Nice article Zaid, still planning to tackle TMA on Jizya?

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  13. I have a question there is a hadith in ibn majah 1985 it says Muhammad permitted men to beat their wives then he changed his mind because women complained about their husbands beating them. So why did he permit them at first I didnt understand?

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    1. https://archive.org/stream/SunanIbnMajahVol.11802EnglishArabic/Sunan%20Ibn%20Majah%20Vol.%203%20-%201783-2718%20English%20Arabic#page/n133/mode/1up

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    2. it's self contradicting hadith if you read it in full, pay attention to what it's said at the end.

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    3. Its sahih hadith. He saw that men misused this permission then rebuked them,but why did he permit at first

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  14. Could you maybe help me with some ahadith that make it seem the quran is a living being that will intercede for us literally and that the quran will also come in the form of a man

    The ahadith i am referring to

    Riyad as saliheen: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saying, "The Qur'an and its people who applied it, will be brought on the Day of Resurrection preceded with Surat Al-Baqarah and Surat Al-'Imran arguing on behalf of those who applied them."

    Here it seems that surah al baqarah and imran are literally arguing and they are in front of you on the day of judgement.

    Another hadith also seems weird to me so it would be great if you could explain inshaAllah. It saya that fasting and the quran will literally be speaking: Imam Ahmad (6589) narrated from ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Fasting and the Qur’an will intercede for a person on the Day of Resurrection. Fasting will say: O Lord, I kept him from his food and desires during the day; let me intercede for him. And the Qur’an will say: I kept him from sleeping during the night; let me intercede for him. And they will be allowed to intercede.”

    The last one which i had the most trouble with was the ahadith claiming the quran will come as a pale man who is literally speaking to others

    “The Qur’aan will meet its companion on the Day of Resurrection when his grave is opened for him, in the form of a pale man. It will say to him, ‘Do you recognize me?’ He will say: ‘I do not recognize you.’ It will say: ‘I am your companion the Qur’aan, who kept you thirsty on hot days and kept you awake at night. Every merchant benefits from his business and today you will benefit from your good deeds.’ He will be given dominion in his right hand and eternity in his left, and there will be placed on his head a crown of dignity, and his parents will be clothed with priceless garments the like of which have never been seen in this world. They will say: ‘Why have we been clothed with this?’ It will be said: ‘Because your son used to recite Qur’aan.’ Then it will be said to him: ‘Recite and ascend in the degrees of Paradise,’ and he will continue to ascend so long as he recites, either at a fast pace or a slow pace .”

    Narrated by Ahmad in al-Musnad (394) and Ibn Maajah in al-Sunan (3781

    Please help me akhi.

    Jazakallah khair

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  15. What is the refutation of the claim against our prophet saws that he used to treat his wives unjustly and they then bring the claim of sawdah that the prophet wanted to divorce her because of getting old and fat and that he took away her day with the prophet and gave it with aisha radiallahu anhum ijmain

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    1. Do they support their claims with sound chain of narration?/

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  16. I don't watch Sharif's videos, however after reading this... Did that guy literally make a video where he talks about a conspiracy that Muhammad is Jesus?

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  17. When the prophet was praying or other things did he say allahumma sali ala muhammad wa ali muhammad kama salayta ala ibrahim

    Or at tahiyatu lilahi wa salawatu watayibat as salamu alayka ayuha nabi etc.

    Would he say those things because he is the nabi so ia he saying peace be upom you o prophet when he himself is the prophet?

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  18. Why is the name of allah shortened to lah sometimes in the quran. So from الله to لله like in aya 2 of surah fatiha

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    1. Lah simply means god in Arabic
      Allah means the god

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    2. Isnt ilah god and not lah?

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  19. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam can you refute this?

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    1. i'll probably dedicate a video on my channel for this, or a blog which one you prefer?

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    2. I'd prefer a blog. (Another anonymous here) when will It come?

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    3. Also im kinda impatient,can you very briefly tell me what exactly you will refute? The "rape" claim? Their sources? Or what?

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    4. i can't tell for sure, i have 2 more scheduled articles after I'm finished with Sharif.

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  20. Can you explain this hadith about the prophet approving of murder of a woman for insulting him? https://islamqa.info/en/103739

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    1. "A blind man had a freed concubine (Umm walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and say bad things about him"
      correction, there is a mistranslation in this sentence of the hadith, she already insulted him, but in the arabic text the word Taqa' Fih, littraly means harm him, so in essence she was doing physical and verbal harm
      her insulting wasn't the only reason she was killed but rather she was directly harming the prophet

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    2. But the hadith says she was with the master,when she insulted he killed her,after that he told the event to the priphet. How can she harm the prophet when she is not with her? The man informs the prophet after the event

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  21. I had a couple of questions

    What is the correct translation and meanimg of nikah.

    Some say its finishing the marriage contract, others say intercourse and some other than them say it means f*ck

    Secondly is it true the prophet told someone to bite his fathers genitals and abu bakr told someone to bite the clitoris of al lat

    And finally could yiu answer this argument

    Sahih Muslim 2473a, in which Abu Dhar says:

    “I said, ‘(Use) a han made from wood,’ but I did not use a euphemism.” فَقُلْتُ هَنٌ مِثْلُ الْخَشَبَةِ غَيْرَ أَنِّي لاَ أَكْنِي. ‏

    This refers to an episode when Abu Dhar, one of the earliest converts to Islam, mocked two female polytheists. He told the two women to have their idols, Isaf and Na’ila, have sex with each other.

    Abu Dhar then told them to use “a han made from wood” to enable sex between their idols, and he adds, “but I did not use a euphemism,” meaning he did not use the euphemism han ("thing," a euphemism for penis). The hadith lexicologist Ibn al-Athir writes about this hadith: "meaning that he clearly called it by its name.”

    Abu Dhar probably used the term 'ayr (dick), farj (genitalia) or dhakar (penis).

    Muhammad then approached the women, who were crying, and asked what happened. They said that Abu Dhar spoke a terrible obscenity to them. Muhammad does not rebuke Abu Dhar for his obscenity, but rather, by the end of the long hadith, states that Abu Dhar’s entire tribe is pardoned because they embraced Islam.

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    1. sorry for not responding i was busy

      "What is the correct translation and meanimg of nikah."
      there is no such a thing as correct translation in islam, only correct meaning, Nikah can either mean marrige or sexual intercourse, the word change based on the context you use it on, 95% of the time it means marrige to the point that it became the only associated word with it

      "Secondly is it true the prophet told someone to bite his fathers genitals"
      source?

      "and abu bakr told someone to bite the clitoris of al lat"
      source?

      "Sahih Muslim 2473a, in which Abu Dhar says:

      “I said, ‘(Use) a han made from wood,’ but I did not use a euphemism.” فَقُلْتُ هَنٌ مِثْلُ الْخَشَبَةِ غَيْرَ أَنِّي لاَ أَكْنِي. ‏

      This refers to an episode when Abu Dhar, one of the earliest converts to Islam, mocked two female polytheists. He told the two women to have their idols, Isaf and Na’ila, have sex with each other."
      he did say that, the word ephthize him comparing them to a female genetialia but never did he said he will have sex with them
      that statment is only used to make a gesture to their genetilia and not to state he would have sex with their idols
      Imam Nawawi In his Sharih of Sahih muslim state that

      "Muhammad then approached the women, who were crying, and asked what happened. They said that Abu Dhar spoke a terrible obscenity to them. Muhammad does not rebuke Abu Dhar for his obscenity, but rather, by the end of the long hadith, states that Abu Dhar’s entire tribe is pardoned because they embraced Islam."
      False, he didn't pardon him , he never knew who he was hence asking him "He then said: Who are you? I said: From the tribe of Ghifar"
      he only knew about his tribe, he never knew the man identity, infact the women themselves if you read the hadith never even expressed the identity of the man, all what they gave was a vague hint

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  22. What do you think of shias?

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  23. Ibn Qudaamah said: ‘This is because the master-slave bond entails deeming it lawful for the slave owner to benefit from the service of his slave woman and to be intimate with her; it cannot be combined with a weaker contract, i.e. marriage…. her from her master), their marriage contract is annulled.’ Ibn Qudaamah asserted that there is no disagreement among scholars concerning this.” http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=272452


    That seems to contradict with your statement about marrying slavegirls?

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    1. no it does not, you misquoted (or the source you got that from misquoted what it says)
      you cut one part before "their marriage contract is annulled"
      "Therefore, if the man was given the ownership of his wife as a slave (like if he married her as a slave woman, then he bought her from her master), their marriage contract is annulled"
      you cut that part (Therefore, if the man was given the ownership of his wife as a slave (like if he married her as a slave woman, then he bought her from her master)))
      meaning if a man gained an already married slave their marriage is annulled, and he will have to remarry her

      Now i find that particularly horrendous misquotation, you will have to tell me where you got that from


      Infact the same link states the following
      "As for having lawful intercourse with one’s idolatrous/pagan slave woman (i.e. a non-Muslim slave woman who is not from the People of the Book), jurists held different opinions about this. Most of them maintained that it is forbidden"

      if only you could go down a bit the issue will be settled

      as i stated time and time again, there are disagreements and even by islamweb as they stated, these disagreement and minority and abnormal, but the overwhelming majority of scholars agree that you will have to marry your slave girl first then you are allowed to have sex with her, and even your own link admit that she need to be set free first
      "If he wishes to marry her, he has to set her free and then marry her like the Prophet , did with Safiyyah bint Huyayy may Allaah be pleased with her. He , set her free and then married her."

      so you not only misquoted your link, you also never fully read it.

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    2. I have read it.


      I cut that part because it was irrelevant. ""lawful for the slave owner to benefit from the service of his slave woman and to be intimate with her; it cannot be combined with a weaker contract, i.e. marriage"" This clearly says without marriage you can be intimade. Pay attention,ownership is a contract for intimacy and it cannot be combined with marriage. Its clear?



      Now it says: (like if he married her as a slave woman, then he bought her from her master), their marriage contract is annulled" this is about marriage,if you marry a slave of someone else(she is now your wife) then buy her from the owner,you have to remarry because her selling is divorce.this is irrelevant here. But if someone is already your slave then no marriage needed for intercourse,as seen above.



      I know it mentions minor disagreements but they are all about intercourse with women with no religious book,like polytheists.all those quotes and discussions and the verse 2:221 on the page mention polytheists. Noone says you have to marry muslim,christian or jewish slave women for sex,it clearly excludes them: "slave owner has the right to be intimate with his female slave (who is a Muslim, Christian, or a Jew) because she is his “milk yameen” (that which his right hand possesses)


      And this is without marriage,next it says:
      ""but he cannot marry her. If he wishes to marry her, he has to set her free and then marry her" (marrying polytheists is forbidden altogether thus it just mentions abrahamic religions)
      So it mentions marriage seperately.I can have sex with them Without marriage,if I want to marry them, then I first should set them free then marry.This is optional.



      I dont know how It can be any more clear?




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    3. No it's not irrelivant
      read the text

      " Ibn Qudaamah said: ‘This is because the master-slave bond entails deeming it lawful for the slave owner to benefit from the service of his slave woman "
      no where does it says beneift sexually without marrige, and no where in the above statment sex is mentioned, rather serverces

      "it cannot be combined with a weaker contract, i.e. marriage…. Therefore, if the man was given the ownership of his wife as a slave (like if he married her as a slave woman, then he bought her from her master), their marriage contract is annulled.’ Ibn Qudaamah asserted that there is no disagreement among scholars concerning this.”"
      meaning you can't be a partner and owner at the same time since both conditions are incompatibal, so in order to marry you need to set free the slave to become a partner and not owner, this article confirm what i said, because sex is act of partnership

      "This clearly says without marriage"
      where does it say sex without marrrige with slave is permissable, litrraly that statment is not found anywhere in the article, Quite the Opposite again, this article confirm my postion
      “It should be noted that the permissibility of having intercourse with one’s polytheist captive was abrogated by the verse (that means): {And do not marry polytheistic women until they Believe.} [Quran 2:221]” [End of quote from Al-Mughni]"
      intimate in this context means having close relation as evidence by the statment from the article itself
      "Abu Sa‘eed Al Khudri narrated that the Prophet , said regarding the female captives taken at Awtaas: "There must be no intercourse with a pregnant woman until she gives birth to her child or with the one who is not pregnant until she has had one menstrual period.” [Abu Daawood] It is known that they were idol-worshippers; this is clear evidence indicating the permissibility of being intimate with them."
      abu daawood could not possibly contradict himself and the hadith, you can't say intimate here means sexual intercourse when clearly the hadith he quotes state sexual intercourse is not permitted

      i have no clue how could you not read the article in full again it affirms my postion
      "As for the people whose free women are impermissible for Muslims to marry of Magians and all other disbelievers save Christians and Jews, it is also impermissible to have sexual intercourse with the slave-women who are from among such people according to the majority of the scholars…. Ibn ‘Abd Al-Barr said, “A group of renowned jurists around the (early) Islamic world (Fuqahaa' Al-Amsaar) and the majority of scholars maintained this opinion. The opposing opinion is held only by few scholars and it is not even regarded as disagreement. In fact, we do not know of any other scholar but Taawoos who maintained this opinion. Anyway,"

      "it is also impermissible to have sexual intercourse with the slave-women who are from among such people according to the majority of the scholars"
      i really have no clue how could you miss this

      "As for having lawful intercourse with one’s idolatrous/pagan slave woman (i.e. a non-Muslim slave woman who is not from the People of the Book), jurists held different opinions about this. Most of them maintained that it is forbidden"
      i really have no clue how could you miss this

      and i have repeatedly shown it with evidence time and time again, you can't have sexual intercourse with your slaves unless you marry them first to set a contract, a contract can't co exist with ownership

      you can't be a slave owner and married to your slave at the same time.

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    4. "
      And this is without marriage,next it says:
      ""but he cannot marry her. If he wishes to marry her, he has to set her free and then marry her" (marrying polytheists is forbidden altogether thus it just mentions abrahamic religions)
      So it mentions marriage seperately.I can have sex with them Without marriage,if I want to marry them, then I first should set them free then marry.This is optional.""
      no that is a strawman fallacy and a misquotation, it says you can't be married and have slave at the same time as explained below

      " ‘This is because the marriage contract in Islam is established on a basis of partnership and exchange of matrimonial rights and obligations among the spouses and this is incompatible with ownership in case of a slave owner and his slave woman; so there will be no matrimonial rights and obligations in this case.’ Ibn Qudaamah said: ‘This is because the master-slave bond entails deeming it lawful for the slave owner to benefit from the service of his slave woman and to be intimate with her; it cannot be combined with a weaker contract, i.e. marriage…. "

      this is about having the state of a slave coexisting with state of marriage, a totaly different topic

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    5. I still have no idea what you are talking about. The article is very clear yet you still deny what it says.


      ""no where does it says beneift sexually without marrige, and no where in the above statment sex is mentioned, rather serverces""
      Yes it says,next sentence says "and to be intimate with her". Your ownership makes intimate permissible.


      ""meaning you can't be a partner and owner at the same time ""
      It clarly says in paranthesis,if you marry a slave then buy her you need to remarry. That doesnt confirm you. Partnership is marriage here.it does not say partnership is sexual partner and only permissible with marriage,ownership can do it too.


      "As for having lawful intercourse with one’s idolatrous/pagan slave woman (i.e. a non-Muslim slave woman who is not from the People of the Book), ""
      ""save Christians and Jews, it is also impermissible to have sexual intercourse with the slave-women who are from among such people according to the majority of the scholars""
      As I said its all about polytheists,not people of book.again noone says you have to marry people of book for intimacy,its about polytheists.


      """slave owner has the right to be intimate with his female slave (who is a Muslim, Christian, or a Jew) because she is his “milk yameen” (that which his right hand possesses) but he cannot marry her."" So you have right to be intimate with her when she is slave,not married.Isnt it quite clear? As I said it mentions marriage seperately,if you want to marry you set her free.


      ""a totaly different topic"
      No its right about the topic here.
      "" lawful for the slave owner to benefit from the service of his slave woman and to be intimate with her; it cannot be combined with a weaker contract, i.e. marriage""
      So you have right to be intimate,but you cant combine it with marriage.


      "" you can't have sexual intercourse with your slaves unless you marry them first to set a contract"
      At the beginning the article says:the difference between having intercourse with one’s female slave by virtue of ownership and having intercourse with her by virtue of a marriage contract.
      Ownership and marriage are two diffirent contracts where intimacy is permissible.You can have intercourse with your wife as marriage or your slave because its ownership.both are OK.



      Nowhere in the article does it say marriage is required for sex,i mean with jewish or christian slave women.

      "you can't say intimate here means sexual intercourse when clearly the hadith he quotes state sexual intercourse is not permitted"
      Intimacy clearly means sex here,whatelse can it mean?. It does not say its not permitted at all,just says after the birth or menstrual period.after,its permitted


      ""having intercourse with one’s polytheist captive was abrogated by the verse (that means): {And do not marry polytheistic women until they Believe.} [Quran 2:221]”""
      Intercourse with polytheists was permissible, then became impermissible with this verse but Christians/jews are still permissible.No verse or hadith or any quote in the article states marriage needed for them.marriage is when you want to marry your slave you set her free then marry.this is not about the issue Im talking about

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    6. Again No
      https://pastebin.com/Nx3pkQi3

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    7. http://pasted.co/133758b0

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    8. As stated, I'm done with you
      https://pastebin.com/2zi8atVi

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  24. The prophet used this word: انكتها

    Does this mean fuck and is it a bad word?

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  25. What di you think of this guy: http://abulahab.blogspot.nl/?m=1

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    1. It looks like a blog of a deranged toddler

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  26. Could you explain quran 33:50 and thw hadith of aisha where she says about it it seems your lord wants to hasten to your pleasure.

    The quranic verse makes it seem that the prophet had the privilege to have sex with any women he wanted and all women could give themselves to him. The verse makes it seem they arent giving themselves for marriage but for sexual relations and verse 52 says the prophet chose the beautiful women.

    Please help

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    1. "hadith of aisha where she says about it it seems your lord wants to hasten to your pleasure."
      this will probably be addressed in the upcomming parts refutations to sharif

      "The quranic verse makes it seem that the prophet had the privilege to have sex with any women he wanted and all women "
      that is false, the verse is talking about marrige
      according to Ibn Taymiya who cite consensus of muslims
      "فأحل سبحانه لنبيه صلى الله عليه وسلم من النساء أجناسا أربعة ; ولم يجعل خالصا له من دون المؤمنين إلا الموهوبة ; التي تهب نفسها للنبي ; فجعل هذه من خصائصه : له أن يتزوج الموهوبة بلا مهر وليس هذا لغيره باتفاق المسلمين . "
      god almighty made it lawful for prophet 4 types of women: and never made it unlawful outside of believing women except from gifted one the one that is gifted herself to the prophet (gifting herself): and made this among his attributes: that he marries a gifted woman without maher, and no one other than him have this privilege by general consensus of all muslims
      Majum alfawta vol.23 page.63

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  27. Couple of questions on some ahadith

    In sahih muslim 2363 the prophet tells people to stop doing something with their trees, but after doing so the production failed and the prophet made an excuse.

    But shouldnt the prophet speak of revelation

    2. The hadith says meat onlt decays because of the children of israel but we know this is not as such

    3. Why does a child look like the mother or father?
    Depends who ejaculates first
    …And if a man’s discharge proceeded that of the woman, then the child resembles the father, and if the woman’s discharge proceeded that of the man, then the child resembles the mother

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    1. "but after doing so the production failed and the prophet made an excuse.

      But shouldnt the prophet speak of revelation
      "
      Speak of revelation?
      first if we go by the text alone the prophet is giving advice, if he recived revelation he will say so himself before stating it, this was merely words from his own

      "2. The hadith says meat onlt decays because of the children of israel but we know this is not as such"
      no where are children of israel are mentioned, what hadith are you talking about?

      "3. Why does a child look like the mother or father?"
      what are you talking about, no where does the hadith state that

      "Depends who ejaculates first
      …And if a man’s discharge proceeded that of the woman, then the child resembles the father, and if the woman’s discharge proceeded that of the man, then the child resembles the mother"
      cite the hadith

      as for the hadith, muhammad himself responded
      https://sunnah.com/muslim/43/185
      meaning this is merely his opinion

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    2. The hadith on spoiling meat

      Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Were it not for Bani Israel, meat would not decay; and were it not for Eve, no woman would ever betray her husband." (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 3083)

      And on the discharge

      And if a man's discharge proceeded that of the woman, then the child resembles the father, and if the woman's discharge proceeded that of the man, then the child resembles the mother."

      Its in bukhari: https://sunnah.com/urn/41620

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  28. Hi. Can you please explain the verse 11:7 "And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water"

    And a similar hadith: He said, "First of all, there was nothing but Allah, and (then He created His Throne). His throne was over the water, and He wrote everything in the Book (in the Heaven) and created the Heavens and the Earth." (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 2953)


    Now we know there was no such thing as water before big bang,how can Allahs throne be on water? That seems unscientific and mytologycal.I heard Allahs throne is metaphor for his power and greatness but whats with water?





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    1. already addressed here
      https://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2017/11/why-masked-arab-is-masked-falsehood.html

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    2. The article is about the creation of heaven and earth. I found these parts specifically about my question. Sorry if I took themt out of context or something

      "it states that from water that God's throne was on top of it, god first created heaven, then out of water he created earth"

      ""we have an authentic hadith that drive the creation of heaven and earth, mentioning the creation of heaven first from the water of the throne""

      But that still doesnt address my question. Water came after the big bang. It was not there at the beginning. Then How can the heavens and earth (this phrase means the whole universe,right?) be created from water?

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    3. "But that still doesnt address my question"
      if your question is that water that is referred here in this hadith, is the same water you and i drink then you are wrong, water is often in islamic exegesis refer to liquid, it's translated to "ma" ماء were you can combine it with multiple other meanings, for example semen is often called Ma alrjul literally translate to water of the male, but we know semen is not H20 (sorry for such strange example but I'm trying to make a point) what ever you think, water that is refereed to the throne is not the drinkable water you assume it to be
      that is one of the reasons why someone need to learn arabic to understand islam better

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    4. There was not any king of "liquid" or matter prior to big bang

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    5. that liquid exist in the throne of allah, and it's outside space and time so your objection is illogical.

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  29. Regarding apostasy in islam. Do you think all apostates should be killed? Some say the rule only applies to those who actively fight and cause fitnah,not passive apostates for simply leaving religion. Whats the scholars ijmaa here? And does that apply to todays apostates? I have hard time understanding this.
    Thank you

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    1. "Regarding apostasy in islam. Do you think all apostates should be killed? "
      depends on their actions
      "Some say the rule only applies to those who actively fight and cause fitnah"
      the first apostate in history of islam Al-aswad al'anzi was a backstabber who faught muhammad the moment he left islam

      "not passive apostates for simply leaving religion"
      depends on their actions again, a spy can easily act as passive apostate but uses his knowlage to take out an ideology he used to be part of

      "Whats the scholars ijmaa here? "
      as far as i looked into it, there is no certified Ijmaa on it.

      "And does that apply to todays apostates"
      depends on their actions again

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  30. Whats the response to those who claim our prophet had a mental illness like epilepsy or schizoprenia etc. Like the book people vs mohammed

    Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet. In it, Sina suggests that Muhammad suffered from a series of mental disorders, including narcissistic personality disorder, temporal lobe epilepsy and obsessive compulsive disorder

    Also what do you think of ali sinas challenge

    Sina lists references to Muhammad's actions and offers $50,000 to anyone who can disprove his charge that Muhammad was "a narcissist, a misogynist, a rapist, a pedophile, a lecher, a torturer, a mass murderer, a cult leader, an assassin, a terrorist, a madman and a looter

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    1. "our prophet had a mental illness like epilepsy or schizoprenia etc"
      do they have any ceritified mental evaluation? it's as if somone says he is a pedophle that claim require mental evalution by ceritfied proffessional

      "Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet. In it, Sina suggests that Muhammad suffered from a series of mental disorders"
      and the sources for his diagnostics are?

      "including narcissistic personality disorder"
      first, NPD is a personality condition and not a mental disorder
      secound where are his sources?

      "temporal lobe epilepsy and obsessive compulsive disorder"
      his sources?

      "Sina lists references to Muhammad's actions and offers $50,000 to anyone who can disprove his charge that Muhammad was "a narcissist, a misogynist, a rapist, a pedophile, a lecher, a torturer, a mass murderer, a cult leader, an assassin, a terrorist, a madman and a looter"
      and where are his evidence for these?

      you do realize the burden of proof is on him right? does he carry any certified professional diagnostic? was muhammad subjected to medical diagnostics? if not then he has no merits to stand on

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  31. Can there be an explanation of thid hadith

    Abu Huraira narrated: the Prophet said, “In very hot weather delay the Dhuhr prayer till it becomes cooler because the severity of heat is from the raging of the hellfire. The hellfire complained to its Lord saying, “O Lord! My parts are eating each other.” So Allah allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in the summer. The breath in the summer is at the time when you feel the severest heat, and the breath in the winter is at the time when you feel the severest cold” (Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi and others, with minor variations).

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    1. can you explain your problem with it?

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    2. Well we know the weather isnt determined by hell breathing

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    3. i suppose you mean the hadith talk about current weather, not after life weather right?
      if that is the case then i believe you are mistaken
      "وقال ابن المنير : إن قيل كيف يجمع بين البرد والحر في النار ؟ فالجواب : أن جهنم فيها زوايا فيها نار وزوايا فيها زمهرير وليست محلا واحدا يستحيل أن يجتمعا فيه .

      وقال مغلطاي : لقائل أن يقول الذي خلق الملك من ثلج ونار قادر على جمع الضدين في محل واحد .

      وأيضا فالنار من أمور الآخرة لا تقاس على أمر الدنيا . "
      in sharih alzarqani ala muati malik page.112
      and ibn muneer said : if it was asked how could cold and heat be gathered in hell? then the answer : hell has corners, one corner for fire and one for cold, and it's not right for one to be gathered with the other
      al-maglati said : for someone to ask, : the one who created cold and heat surly can put them togther
      and so hell is a matter effect outside this life"

      so as we can see, the matters of hell fire doesn't effect this life

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    4. But these are explainations about the heat and cold being in hell together,they say they can coexist


      ""hell fire doesn't effect this life" ---that doesnt follow?


      The hadith clearly says the movements of hell effect current weather:"..Allah allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in the summer. The breath in the summer is at the time when you feel the severest heat, and the breath in the winter is at the time when you feel the severest cold"

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    5. they don't say that, they quote Questions posted by questioner, scholar state that there are two corners of hell one fire and one cold,.

      """hell fire doesn't effect this life" ---that doesnt follow?"
      meaning hell fire doesn't reach us, therefor the question that hell fire effect weather is illogical

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    6. Hellfire ofcourse doesnt reach us us but the hadith says the heat and cold you feel is because of its breathing

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    7. if that is what you were trying to make then of course it does state that, but no where does it state that this life weather is effected by hell fire hence my citation "hell is a matter effect outside this life"
      meaning anything that happen in hell fire effect the after life including the weather, i should also point out that "weather" is not found anywhere in the arabic text but then again that is false if that is your question
      "وقال ابن عبد البر: لفظ الحديث يدل على أن نفسها في الشتاء غير الشتاء ونفسها في الصيف غير الصيف."
      and ibn abdul bar said : the meaning in hadith of "winter" state that it's breath is as cold as winter, not winter itself, and it's breath in summer is not the same as summer itself
      Sharih Alzarqani Li Muwata Malik ibid

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  32. Expedition of Surad ibn Abdullah:
    ..Muhammad recognised Surad as the ruler of his clan, and ordered him to war against the Non-Muslim tribes in his neighbourhood.[2][3][4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedition_of_Surad_ibn_Abdullah


    That seems like an offensive attack.Why did the prophet order attacking nearby people? Do you have sources giving reasons for this expedition?

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    1. "That seems like an offensive attack.Why did the prophet order attacking nearby people? Do you have sources giving reasons for this expedition?"
      is it preemptive? ok so it's from Tarikh al tabari which already put question marks in it
      i looked into all possible sources no authentication of this raid exist

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  33. Could you explain the event of the moon splitting as i cant ohathom it from a rational/logical nor a historiacal or scientific perspective.

    Where is the proof scientifically? Why is there not any histiriocal proof of someone writing about this

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    1. to be honest i have not looked into this but i heared of sources that state an indian tribe saw the moon split

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  34. There are a couple of hadiths mentioning stoning adulterers to death,Muhammad himself practised and ordered it. People say this is barbaric,how to answer this.what do you think

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    1. their argument that it's barbaric because it's stoning? that it's something of 7th century? tell them, if bombing people to millions of peaices in drones strike less barbaric then i recommend not wasting your time with them

      to be honest, i can't take the people who say stoning is barbaric since it's an old practice seriusly

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    2. Old practice? But the punishment for adultery is still stoning in sharia? https://islamqa.info/en/198400

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    3. what i meant by old practice is how secularist call it.

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  35. 2 questions

    1. Was earth or heaven created first
    2. Is the wall of yajuj and majuj still intact here on earth?

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    1. sources state the heaven was created first
      i wrote about this
      https://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2017/11/why-masked-arab-is-masked-falsehood.html

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    2. as for yajuj and majuj, Quran on chapter cave 93-99 address them and does state that there is a wall or dome of water there, but no location or state of the wall is mentioned, and this is one of the vague aspects of Quran, secondary islamic sources on them doesn't spacitificly say where the wall is, but state it has been opened so no longer exist
      https://sunnah.com/muslim/54/5

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  36. Hey have you ever answered the criticism and claim that quran 21:30 is wrong scientifically?

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    1. already answered here
      https://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2017/11/why-masked-arab-is-masked-falsehood.html
      https://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2017/11/introduction-in-this-article-we-shall.html
      https://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2015/07/foundaliscom-epic-fail.html

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  37. Can you check out this video and tell me what you think? https://youtu.be/2KD6T69QrJU

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    1. are you asking me to refute it?

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    2. If you want. But what do you thi k of the arguments brought bu abdullah to support a geocentric universe with a physical heaven with pillars that needs to be held up by god?

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    3. i don't recommend using scientific miracles arguments for islam, and if i were an atheist i wouldn't recommend using scientific errors argument against islam either, both are bad arguments
      Abdullah presuppose his conclusion, a simple reply to him is to ask him "where does the quran state that sun orbit earth like (and the sun when it orbit earth)" it's simple, the geocentric argument is based on assumptions rather than valid deductive arguments

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  38. What are the 7 heavens which the quran talks about

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    1. answered here
      https://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2017/11/why-masked-arab-is-masked-falsehood.html

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  39. In quran 33:52 allah makes it haram to marry more women but this verse was abrogated see ibn kathir and qurtubi.

    Isnt this hypocritical? Why would it be haram and then abrogated?

    Also why does muhammad get this privilege of having as many wives as he wants? Just because he is the prophet?

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    1. assuming that it was abrogated

      "Isnt this hypocritical? Why would it be haram and then abrogated?"
      i'm not sure if you understand what abrogation or hypocritical means

      "Also why does muhammad get this privilege of having as many wives as he wants? Just because he is the prophet?"
      it's not a prevelage, in 7th centyry arabia marrige was more than a contract, he married several women to form a bond with their tribes, same as he did to abu baker when he married aisha
      nearly every wife he had apart from Khadiga, sawda and zaynab bint jahash are all resorted from tribes and powerfull people
      so he married them to formulate a connection between them

      there is not a single hadith exist on entire islamic sources where muhammad admit to marry multible wives duo to his "sexual desires" and scientificly a 52 year old man can not possible possess such sexual dirves, only in his youth, and he only married khadija when he ws young
      from age of 25 to 50 he remained on one wife
      from 50 he married multiple wives, how can his sexual desires appear in 52 years?
      however if we put it straight, he had more than 4 wives who were alive, the number 11 include even his wives who died before, he never had at one point in his life 11 alive wives at the same time
      https://fatwa.islamweb.net/fatwa/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=12207


      so if we wrap that up he did sicked to 4 wives rule, and had 4 or 5 who were alive at the same time, the number 11 is the total number of wives he had in his life time and it include the dead ones like khadiga, will you count her as his current wive too? no.
      honestly no offense but i don't take the argument of "the prophet married them for his sexual desires" seriously, even when i was atheist

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    2. Ok so basically

      1. Quran 33:52 was abrogated according to qurtubi and ibn kathirs tafsir, however the prophet never married any other women. Why would allah abrogate it if the prophet would never apply it, isnt it a pointless abrogation?

      2. Why is god concerned with the prophets sexual life and why is he allowing him to more women and trying to pleasure him in that fashion

      3. Why does the prophet seem to have many more privileges over the regular muslims like the marriages, khums, fai. And the argument he is a prophet is just special pleading.

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    3. 1-First and for must, Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir never stated it was abrogated, rather they gave 7 opinions of scholars on it, 2 of them state it was abrogated, 5 does not, so that is false
      2-sexual life is part of marriage, and it's part of his reputation, so of course God will concern himself with prophet life, God never overstated his concerns with muhammad marriage life, only 4 verses are dedicated to this topic and you call this (concern)?
      3-i already addressed that, a president have more privilege over his people, asking why prophet have more privilege is like asking why presidents have more authority, it's no offense a silly question

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  40. I have a problem with quran 2:187

    This part of the verse: And eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct to you from the black thread

    If you read ibn kathir and authentic ahadith it is clear that the verse was revealed first without the word "dawn" which caused people to misunderstand the verse. If allah is all knowing he knows that this verse will later have the word dawn. So whata the purpose of leaving the word out in the beginning and secondly if allah is all knowing he knows thatcpeoplr will misunderstand the verse without dawn thus why didnt he just add the word from the beginning so that they would understand it and not fall into mistakes

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    1. "If you read ibn kathir and authentic ahadith it is clear that the verse was revealed first without the word "dawn" which caused people to misunderstand the verse. If allah is all knowing he knows that this verse will later have the word dawn. So whata the purpose of leaving the word out in the beginning and secondly if allah is all knowing he knows thatcpeoplr will misunderstand the verse without dawn thus why didnt he just add the word from the beginning so that they would understand it and not fall into mistakes"

      i read the arabic version since the English one is abridged and cut many part of the original text, no where does ibn kathir state that Khait was originally not there in text then added
      ibn Kathir argues about the meaning of the word, asking of Khair (string) really means a string

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  41. There is a hadith in which the prophet allows young people to do mutah when they wanted to castrate themselves. But isnt this mutah kind of like zina or prostitution? Why didnt he allow them to masturbate?

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    1. Its in bukhari: We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet (ﷺ) and we had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet (ﷺ) ). "Shall we castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet (ﷺ) forbade us to do that and thenceforth he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then he recited: "O you who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you."

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    2. https://www.islamawareness.net/Marriage/Mutah/hadith_muslim.html

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    3. "But isnt this mutah kind of like zina or prostitution? "
      zina either means fornication or adultery
      mutah is temporary marriage, it's a contract same as marriage but ends on a short period
      so no it's not zina at all

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  42. 2 questions

    1. Does the quran say there are 7 earths

    2.Why does no quranic verse or hadith ever claim that the earth is on an orbit but it does say the sun and moon have an orbit?

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    1. 1-i already answered it in the blog
      https://azblogtalk.blogspot.com/2017/11/introduction-in-this-article-we-shall.html
      2-earth does have it orbit, same as moon and sun, sun have an orbit around milky way galaxy called galactic year, so i don't get your issues here

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  43. The hadith says The newborn child is touched by the satan (when he comes in the world) and he starts crying because of the touch of satan." Sahih Muslim 2366 b
    But we know they cry for other reasons http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/why-do-newborn-babies-cry So can you explain the hadith

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    1. No offense, but really? you call that link evidence? the author didn't bother to even cite a single authentic source let alone a single citation and peer reviewed study, this guy is a science writer not a scientist .

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    2. Well I actually dont see why you focused on that part. Of course, there are reasons for newborns crying other than satan touching. I dont think any scientist will say they cry because satan touches them. Here are some explanations by by experts https://www.quora.com/Why-do-babies-cry-soon-after-they-are-delivered-What-is-the-scientific-reason-behind-it


      Actually,I'd be glad if you could provide me with some scholarly commentary on this hadith. Like if this touching is meant to be literal or something else

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    3. i focused on it because you used it as bases for the hadith, which is false, all those scientific explanations (which are not backed by peer reviewed articles) don't contradict the hadith if we take the hadith literally, the hadith simply state the touch of satan cause the child to cry, as stated by that quora (which is not a good source for academic sources as quora is like yahoo answers a place where laymen put their sources in it) they state the crying is caused by outside interference rather than the baby himself preemptively start crying "The baby should begin crying within the first 30 seconds to one minute of life. To accomplish this, gentle stimulation is usually required and accomplished by rubbing the baby's back or gently stimulating its feet."
      meaning the baby doesn't start crying by itself, rather the accommodated surgants do stimulation to check it's body which is rather an outside interference

      given all that up (if we accept your non academic non peer reviewed article which should already be rejected) it doesn't contradict the hadith since the hadith empathize an outside force that causes crying of babys

      quora is good to get general knowledge regarding a topic, but it's not good for scientific sources and academic citations

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  44. In quran 91:1-2 allah says the moon follows the sun.

    However we know that the moon is far away from the sun and on its own orbit

    And secondly if the meaning is that in the morning there is the sun and later you will see the moon how then do we explain sometimes seeing both at the same time or an eclipse?

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    1. That is not correct
      This verse is among the verses that nearly all tafsir exigeses agree on one interpretation all of tabat qurtubi sa'di and ibn Kather agree
      That this is talking about sunset and sunrise moon set and moon rise since ibn Kather is probably the only English available tafsir albeit abridged you can check it out and see it yourself
      As for eclipse no the sun and moon orbit at different rates making it harder to see them at the same time.
      The moon covers the sun causing a halo over it
      Also it's a rare celestial event that is not as common as sun set and moon rise

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  45. not all of them was exiled
    " لا يَجْتَمِعُ في جزيرةِ الْعَرَبِ دِينَانِ فَلمَّا نَمَى ذَلِكَ إلى عمرَ أرسلَ إلى يهودِ خَيْبَرَ"
    no two religions are gathered in arab island, when that reached omar he sent to the jews of Khaybar

    of all hadiths that mention this (which almost all of them are weak) this one gives this only details
    jews of najran and fadak also had the same fait
    interestingly this is part of his last sermon before he died "may allah curse the Christians and the jews for they placed places of worship at the graves of the prophets, no two religions will coexist in arabia"
    so now we have the full clue, this is not about all jews and Christians, but rather those who tore apart prophets graves and build places of worship ontop of them
    أخبرنا مالك عن إسماعيل بن أبي حكيم أنه سمع عمر بن عبد العزيز يقول : { كان من آخر ما تكلم به رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أن قال : قاتل الله اليهود والنصارى اتخذوا قبور أنبيائهم مساجد ، لا يبقين دينان بأرض العرب
    we were told by malik ibn ishmail, bin abi hakim that he heard umar bin abd alaziz say: {the prophet last words was he said : may allah fight jews and Christians for they took their prophets graves and build their places of worship on top of them, no two religions shall coexist in land of arabs
    source
    altamhid fi almuati min ma'ani wa asanid page.166

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  46. Hi,can you do me a favour. Im making a research about Adam in islam.is this narration about the verse comparing Him to Jesus is authentic? http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=86&tSoraNo=3&tAyahNo=59&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

    And I want to know if all scholars agree that the verse mentions his being fatherless rather than something else.

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    1. one of the narrators is abdullah bin muhammad bin ja'far two sources showed the same evidence
      one is regard him as mautho' which means he place hadiths and the other regard him as majhul, which means unknown, so i would say it's not authentic

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  47. In 22:65 it says "And He restrains the sky from falling upon the earth, unless by His permission". But we know sky is not a solid object above us,its just what we see from the universe. So it cant "fall"?

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    1. it's not littal it's figurative
      as ibn khuzama stated this is how classical nascent muslims understood it
      "3- الإمساك على الأصابع وهو غير القبض بها.
      قال ابن خزيمة: (باب ذكر إمساك الله -تبارك وتعالى اسمه وجلَّ ثناؤه- السماوات والأرض وما عليها على أصابعه) "
      3-holding with fingers is not like as normal holding
      ibn khuzama stated (in regards to god holding the sky and earth and what on it with his fingers"
      source
      Tawhid by ibn khuzama vol.1 page.178

      "ثم أورد حديث ابن مسعود رضي الله عنه بإسناده من عدة طرق، ثم قال: (أما خبر ابن مسعود؛ فمعناه: أنَّ الله جل وعلا يمسك ما ذكر في الخبر على أصابعه، على ما في الخبر سواء، قبل تبديل الله الأرض غير الأرض؛ لأن الإمساك على الأصابع غير القبض على الشيء، وهو مفهوم في اللغة التي خوطبنا بها...) "
      then it was narrated from hadith of ibn mas'ud by an isnad from several ways he said : (as for the narration of ibn mas'ud it means : god hold what he mentioned from his fingers regardless of what the narration come from, it was said he would change earth with another earth, because holding is not as physical holding, and it was the language we understood)
      source:
      ibid page.185

      (and it was the language we understood) that should seal it

      some even related this to the shooting stars verses (which i already explained before)
      others stated that hold here refer to one of his names

      so we have 3 possible interpretations here first is the most probable one as imam ibn khuzama stated
      non of them state heavens are like roof held by god hand physicly

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    2. I can see holding is figurative here but the "falling on earth" part is confusing,since sky cant fall on us.

      So they say sky here means another earth,not the sky we know?

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    3. apparently they do, as they stated this might mean another earth or preventing the sky or heaven from being destroyed and replaced with another one, since they already stated that regarding earth

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  48. The quranic verse (9:30) and hadith says (https://sunnah.com/bukhari/97/65) jews believe Ezra was son of God however jews dont believe that and there is no external source confirming they ever did so,whats the answer?

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    1. https://discover-the-truth.com/2015/01/01/ezra-uzayr-the-son-of-god/

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  49. What do yo u thibk of this post

    https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/8i6lo1/atomic_blasting_the_surah_like_it_argument/

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    1. it look like a child wrote this, it's glutted with strawman and misquotations

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  50. Can you explain this. There are hadiths commanding sacrifice two sheep for baby boy and one for girl.why is the diffirence
    https://sunnah.com/urn/1272680
    https://sunnah.com/nasai/40/4

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    1. Imam Alnawawi in majmu' sharih almuhathab on vol.8 page.406 stated something on the lines of
      ولأنه إنما شرع للسرور بالمولود ، والسرور بالغلام أكثر ، فكان الذبح عنه أكثر
      that it's what is mentioned in regards to the happiness of the news of the born child, and happiness with male is more so it required more

      now that explains it, it depends on the society, in india a female has more tone to happiness than male so by that virtue in islam she is the one to gain the privilege to have 2 sheep sacrifice for her, in 7th century arabia it's traditional that a family is more happy with male than female so it's adopted in islam that a male will have 2 sheep sacrifice

      that doesn't mean islam overall prefer male over female in just gender itself, as imam nawawi made it, it depends on society
      infact it's not set on stone as he said
      وإن ذبح عن كل واحد منهما شاة جاز
      Translation:
      and if only one sheep is sacrificed for him that is allowed aswell

      so it depends on tradition where islam prevails

      The prophet HIMSELF even scarified only one sheep per child for hassan and hussain

      (https://sunnah.com/abudawud/16/54)
      Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

      The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) sacrificed a ram for both al-Hasan and al-Husayn each (Allah be pleased with them).
      note albani stated that there is another rewaya where there was 2 sheeps per child and stated that that one is more authentic, but still regarded this one as Sahih Authentic)

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    2. so basically Hasan and Hussain each one had only one ram (sheep) sacrifice for, contradicting the hadith you cited, which shows that it's not a fixed tradition, it depends on how happy you are with the gender of your child, if you prefer more female you could sacrifice two sheeps for your daughter and one for your son if you prefer a female child overall, so it all depends on father preferences

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  51. What u think of this brother? https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/8ieu4j/hotd_248_muhammad_says_angels_at_his_mosque_hate/

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    1. Ah the moron who makes HOTD is back with more misinformed and strawman posts
      now he thinks angles are afraid of onions?
      that idiot forgot to even read the explanation of the hadiths, and why should i be surprised, nearly every HOTD doesn't cite scholars explanations
      the onions mentioned here are not ALL onions but rather a curropted cursed tree that bring bad onions that harm both people and jinn
      infact i don't need to cite an explanation at all, the hadith itself makes it clear
      the text مَنْ أَكَلَ مِنْ هَذِهِ الشَّجَرَةِ الْمُنْتِنَةِ
      He who eats of this offensive plant must not approach our mosque
      meaning that specific plant alone was bring in forth bad onions so it makes sense it will harm who ever will eat from it


      now these morons on this exmuslim reddit form are telling us it's OK to eat from expired or corrupted plant? DAMN

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    2. and BTW the translation on sunnah website is often lowered down, the real meaning of the above arabic text is "who ever eat from this expired (corrupted) tree"

      so this Exmuslim of HOTD is telling us it's ok to eat expired food and corrupted one? Oh my goodness what the hell Are you dealing with?

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  52. Is it true the sabians also fast 30 days during ramadan and they pray 5 times the same times as the muslims and they have ablution before prayer?

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    1. i think you are referring to Zoroastrians, no, i read somewhere that they admitted to borrow prayer from muslims but i will have to fact check it

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  53. "whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do it with odd number of stones." https://sunnah.com/search/?q=Odd+clean+number

    Some mock these hadiths. Why does it even matter if the number is odd or not? Why this meaningless rule?

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    1. sorry for being late, i was busy
      anyways this is not obligatory, the reason behind it is unknown, but scholars have described it as Sunnah meaning not obligatory to follow
      Imam Alqari state in mushkat al mafatih
      وقد سبق في بحث الاستنجاء أنه سنة
      and we mentioned in topic of purity that this is Sunnah (not obligatory)


      as for the obligatory numbers they are in relation to doing Hajj as one of the pilgrimage rules, cleansing private parts with odd number of stones is not obligatory and is optional what number you chose

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  54. You dont have the right to insult people just because you disagree with them. You sound very narsistic

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    1. they insulted me, and insulted all muslims by calling us fake, ignorant, and mocked our prophet, and you suppose to take them kindly? go read many of my exgange with atheist, my insults are usually result from them starting to offense, go read that post of theirs and see how insulting they are toward us.

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  55. The quran says Jesus was given the injeel but we know it was written after him,not given to him. Some claim the original one given to him is completely lost today but there is no evidence for such claim?

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    1. no where is injeel was stated by name in quran, i think you got your ideas confused.

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    2. What does does this verse say https://quran.com/5/46?translations=20,101,85,19,95,18,17,84,22

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    3. for some reason i couldn't find it on legacy quran website, which probably the reason why i didn't find the word, anyways thanks for clearing that up
      however that doesn't clarify your claim
      "The quran says Jesus was given the injeel but we know it was written after him"
      no where does this verse say (written) but says "reveal" similar to how the quran was revealed to the prophet at first sura alfatiha was revealed but muhammad didn't write it down at that time when he first heared it

      i think you should pay attention to what the word reveal mean, as no where does this verse says written down
      there could be another but i didn't find any

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    4. "there could be another but i didn't find any"
      What do you mean here?


      I think your answer is problematic. The verse says injeel or gospel,these are the names of books christians use.So they are books written by men,not "revealed".maybe your argument would work if the verse didnt specify the names of books,like it'd have said "we gave revelations" .also if that is the case then why did Jesus not put these verbal revelations into a book like quran? He just got them from God then they disapperaed with his death?then whats the point of sending a prophet. There is no historical evidence he ever came up with a book or there was a bible completely diffirent (directly sent by God) from the one we have today


      Quran also says "People of the Book, you do not stand on anything, until you perform the Torah and the Gospel [Injil], and what was sent down to you from your Lord." 5:68" So here it clearly says they must follow gospel. It is the scripture of christians.If its only meant a verbal revelation by "gospel/injeel" they cannot "perform" it after Jesus' death since its not written.

      These two verses again says it was "sent down" by God:
      "It is He Who has sent down the Book (the Qur'an) to you (Muhammad SAW) with truth, confirming what came before it. And he sent down the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). 3:3

      ""Jesus said, "Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book [jalalayn tafsir says "gospel" here], and made me a Prophet." 19:30"


      Anyway I'll put the source of this claim here if youre interested http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/injil_what_kind.html

      the quran mentions gospel as a revealed book to jesus but its actually written by his followers long after his death. that seems like a serious problem if there is no logical answer


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    5. "What do you mean here?"
      i meant that there could be another verse but i couldn't fact check it

      "I think your answer is problematic. The verse says injeel or gospel,these are the names of books christians use."
      and?

      "So they are books written by men,not "revealed"."
      false, Quran is written by men revealed by god, a book can never be written by being revealed, you are misplacing the term


      ""People of the Book, you do not stand on anything, until you perform the Torah and the Gospel [Injil], and what was sent down to you from your Lord." "
      still a nonsequitur fallacy, again as i explained, reveal is not the same as written

      "So here it clearly says they must follow gospel. "
      it doesn't logicly follow that it was written, i could reveal a law for you doesn't mean i have to write it down

      ""It is He Who has sent down the Book (the Qur'an) to you (Muhammad SAW) with truth, confirming what came before it. And he sent down the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). 3:3 "
      the quran was also sent down by god, does this mean it was sent down as a book?
      https://quran.com/17/105?translations=101,85,17,22,20,19,95,18,84,21
      the quran was also sent down as described by god, but we know no physical copy was sent down on muhammad

      your argument and the link is based on a nonsequitur fallacy

      "Hey?"
      busy with job, i also missed your comment and couldn't trace it

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    6. You are missing the point. Injeel/Gospel is a book written by men long after Jesus' death. So, It couldnt have been revealed to Jesus like Quran. What you say implies that it was revealed to Him,then written on the paper like Quran. This is not true since we know his followers wrote it on their own years after. It is like hadith collections.

      "reveal is not the same as written"
      Nobody says so, thats a strawman. The argument is that the injeel was written long after his death,not by him or at his time(there is no historical evidence for that).its not believed to be direct words of God,unlike quran.your comparison between the two books is wrong.

      "Quran is written by men revealed by god,"
      So;
      Quran>Revealed to Muhammad directly by God>Written on sheets>Muhammad died>Quran was compiled
      So its a revealed book.
      But
      Jesus died>After many years>His followers wrote the Bible.

      So its not a revealed book.

      Quran was revealed to Muhammad and written by his companions on sheets of papers,bones etc. then compiled after his death. Injeel could be tought like hadith collections.this is like saying hadiths are revealed.

      What you say implies that God sent a future book to jesus. There is also no historical evidence that there was an original bible diffirent from the one we have.

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  56. Brother,what are your views on the execution of apostates

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    1. i stated it here above in one of the comments.

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  57. https://www.quora.com/In-your-mind-who-is-the-sleaziest-religious-prophet-the-world-has-ever-seen/answer/Ami-Liyana can you refute the last part that says that apostates will be executed

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    1. Read professor Johnathan Ac Brown article regarding the issue
      https://yaqeeninstitute.org/en/jonathan-brown/the-issue-of-apostasy-in-islam/

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  58. This hadith is appearently unscientific can you help with that.
    ""When Allah created the earth, it started shaking. So He created the mountains, and said to them: ‘Upon it’ so it began to settle. The angels were amazed at the strength of the mountains, "" https://sunnah.com/urn/680800

    We know mountains didnt come as a result of earths shaking and in order to prevent it,they are made when the Earth's crust is pushed up in big folds or forced up or down in blocks

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    1. no where does the hadith state mountains were created as result of earthquakes

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    2. I didnt say earthquakes. Hadith says Allah created mountains because the earth was shaking then it settled. Scientifically, Mountains arent there to prevent shaking nor were they made as a result of it as the hadith implies?

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    3. sure, but even with that that still a strawman, the hadith never said earth shaking create mountains, Allah is the one who create it.

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    4. But akhi could you answer the matn of the hadith which is problematic and seems wrong?

      It says the earth was shaking and thus god created mountains so that the earth would stop shaking. However we know that the mountains dont stop the earth from shaking nor do they stabilize the earth.

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    5. I'm sorry for late response busy with work

      anyways

      "It says the earth was shaking and thus god created mountains so that the earth would stop shaking. "
      the skeptics main arguments is that there are earthquakes that happen in mountains therefore mountains don't stabilize earthquakes, however our planet does this, earth on it's own is supposed to stop earthquakes, yet they still happen
      mountains roots go deep that they press the floating isotops that supposed to cause earthquakes, so it all depends on how deep they are, if they are not deep enough to press the floating isotop then it will not stop or stabilize earthquakes, but if they are deep enough they will press it and help stabilize the crust
      it's called Isostasy
      while it's Wikipedia it's easier to read
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostasy

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  59. https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/8e2z81/hotd_264_muhammad_says_when_you_get_a_new_wife_or/
    Can you answer this

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    1. "Significance of holding a person’s forelock

      The term used in the hadith, Akhudh bi nasiyatihi (take hold of the forelock), is also an Arabic expression meaning to "have total control over." For instance, in this bedtime dua focused on protection from vermin and devils:"
      what? no where does that hadith state holding forlock is used to take control

      "n this case, Muhammad teaches the same dua (supplication) for when you get a new wife, servant (slave) "
      nice try, the word for servant is khadim, not 'abid so no it's not slave

      But nice try HOTD, littraly misquoting the hadith
      there is another part of it seperated in another exigessis with the same isnad (hassan)
      https://dorar.net/h/9b78cbae926e5577e094539188a2dc1e
      https://sunnah.com/abudawud/12/115

      ('Amr b. Shu'aib on his father's authority said that his grandfather (Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As) reported the Prophet (ﷺ) said:

      If one of you marries a woman or buys a slave, he should say: "O Allah, I ask You for the good in her, and in the disposition You have given her; I take refuge in You from the evil in her, and in the disposition You have given her." When he buys a camel, he should take hold of the top of its hump and say the same kind of thing.
      Abu Dawud said: Abu Sa'id added the following words in his version: He should then tale hold of her forelock and pray for blessing in the case of a woman or a slave)
      Grade: Hasan

      as you can see there is a second half cut off from the hadith, surly HOTD came accors this one that contradict his pathetic claims, why didn't he bother to cite it? because it says women has goodness in them (contrary to how he misquoted the hadith)?

      i'll leave the guessing to you

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    2. Why does islam have blasphemy laws

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    3. read the article i referenced to Dr.Joantahn Ac Brown

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  60. Hadith says Allah frightens people with eclipse https://sunnah.com/bukhari/16/9
    That sounds like a supersititon? Eclipses occur for other reasons as we know

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    1. no where does it says eclipse is used to frighten people, it says no eclipse will happen because of some's death, please read carefully, it's referring to sun and moon to be used as subject of fear not eclipse itself
      i think you should be fair in quoting Hadith not following exmuslim-HOTD method by cutting hadith from it's context
      https://sunnah.com/nasai/16/5
      the full hadith is found here
      https://sunnah.com/bukhari/16/5

      so please don't pull a HOTD method but cutting of the hadith from it's context and misrepresent it.

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    2. I didnt take this from hotd.

      Anyway,sorry but I think ur wrong.

      ""no where does it says eclipse is used to frighten people"" that doesnt follow from any hadith,all mention eclipse.
      Your links just says sun and moon are signs of Allah, when you see the eclipse do prayers. Its not that sun and moon are ALWAYS tools to fear us,since it says pray when you see the eclipse
      The title of my link is : Allah frightens His slaves with Kusuf (eclipse).
      the hadiths refers to eclipse itself clearly."they do not eclipse because of the death of someone but Allah frightens His devotees with them."
      They are not subject of fear at other times, Allah frightens people when they cause eclipse. Its quite clear?

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    3. then your link is wrong who ever the author, the author made the same method as HOTD on reddit (cutting hadiths or misquoting them, stramaning them then proceed to cite them without Ta'wil of scholars)

      "Your links just says sun and moon are signs of Allah, when you see the eclipse do prayers. Its not that sun and moon are ALWAYS tools to fear us,since it says pray when you see the eclipse
      "
      that is the second strawman you commit, i never said they are "Always" used to make us fear

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    4. You are walking around unimportant details,hell-bont on finding "fallacies".you ignored the rest of my answer


      "i never said they are "Always" used to make us fear"
      I didnt say you did, however,ehat i meant,the hadith i linked mentions specifically eclipse and Allah uses sun&moon to frighten us when it happens,so its the eclipse itself frightening us.
      "they do not eclipse because of the death of someone but Allah frightens His devotees with them"
      Idk how it could have been any more clearer.

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    5. ".you ignored the rest of my answer"
      i didn't because it's already addressed hence my comment that you denied "no where does it says eclipse is used to frighten people" responds to the rest of your comment

      " i meant,the hadith i linked mentions specifically eclipse and Allah uses sun&moon to frighten us when it happens,so its the eclipse itself frightening us."
      you just contradicted yourself, is it the eclipse that frighten us or is it our fear that create the eclipse case in point your comment "they cause eclipse"
      make up your mind, do eclipses causes fear in people , or does people fear create eclipse?

      ""they do not eclipse because of the death of someone but Allah frightens His devotees with them"
      Idk how it could have been any more clearer."
      the word at the end "them" is referring to plural sentence, which is both sun and moon

      i stated time and time again that sunnah.com translations are unreliable

      no where does hadith state Khusuf is done by someone fear or caused by fear infact quite the opposite, muhammad himself rebuke the people who used to think that, in the second link i cited that you ignored (while accusing me of ignoring your comments you ignore my links)
      "The sun and the moon are two signs against the signs of Allah; they do not eclipse on the death or life of anyone. So when you see the eclipse, remember Allah and say Takbir, pray and give Sadaqa."
      https://sunnah.com/bukhari/16/5

      case in point, no where does hadith state Khsuf is done by emotional events, someone life or fear, you are completely strawmaning the hadith, again i repeat no where does the hadith state that people emotions and fears causes eclipse, rather it's god who does that based on your statement "Allah frightens people when they cause eclipse. "
      "when they cause eclipse"
      people don't cause eclipse the hadith is quite clear on this and i repeated that many times why is it not clear to you?

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  61. About the divorce rule:
    ""And if he has divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she has married another husband” (Quran 2:230)

    This hadith explains it:

    “The Prophet was asked about a man who divorced his wife three times, then another man married her and he closed the door and drew the curtain, then divorced her before consummating the marriage with her. He said: “She is not permissible for the first one (to remarry her) until the second one has had intercourse with her.”” (Nasai)

    So why this strange rule? Why does the woman neeed to marry and have intercourse with another man to remary her former husband? If I divorce my wife with triple talaq then regret, we cannot marry again unless she marries another guy?

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    1. "So why this strange rule? Why does the woman neeed to marry and have intercourse with another man to remary her former husband? If I divorce my wife with triple talaq then regret, we cannot marry again unless she marries another guy?"
      that is not correct, you can't just divorce for the third time then say "oh i will just give her to some guy then she is lawfull to me"
      أي: إذا طلَّق الرَّجُل امرأتَه الطلقة الثالثة، فإنَّها تحرُم عليه، وليس في مقدوره إرجاعُها، إلَّا أنَّها لو تزوَّجت بآخر، بعقدِ نكاحٍ صحيح، وجامعها الزوج الثاني، وكان هذا الزواج واقعًا عن رغبةٍ حقيقية، لا بقصد تحليل المرأة إلى زوجها الأوَّل، فلو طلَّقها زوجُها الثاني وانقضَتْ عِدَّتها، فلا حرجَ حينئذٍ أن يُنشِئَا- الزَّوج الأوَّل والمرأة- عَقْدَ نِكاحٍ جديدًا بينهما، شريطةَ أن يُوقِنا أو يغلب على ظنِّهما أن يتعاشرَا بالمعروف، وأن يقوم كلٌّ منهما بحقوق الآخَر كما ينبغي
      meaning: if a man divorce his wife for the third time, then she is unlawfull for him, and he can't take her back, untill she marry another man with another marrige contract, and had consumated the marrige with her, and that was a real marrige contract based on real desire, not in order to bring her back to her first husband, and if the secound husband divorced her and her period is over, then no problem for the first housband to take her back with a new marrige contract between them, only based on the obligation of them obaying the contract and be good to one another, and everyone establish the rights of the other
      source:
      alwajiz by wahidi,ibn kathir,sa'di, tafsir shanqiti,ibn jarir, tafsir 'atia, tafsir qurtubi

      لَمَّا كانت الرَّجعةُ والخُلع لا يصحَّانِ إلَّا قبل الطَّلقة الثالثة...... ثم ذكر بعد الكلِّ حُكمَ الطلقة الثالثة؛ لأنَّها كالخاتمة لهذا الأمر
      because returning and splitting are not allowed only before the third divorce.......then he mentioned the judgment on the third divorce, because it's the finishing rule
      tafsir alrazi

      so the reason for this is to make sure they are obligated to marriage contract, a contract that divorce two times and fail surly there is something wrong with either spouses, so in order to make sure one of them is obidiant to another they have to go through a test to make sure their marriage is based on intimate relationship, if it was not the husband or the wife won't want to remarry for the third time.

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    2. Sorry your last paragraph cant be understood,kinda weak english

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